This topic was on the talk radio this AM and a guy came on voting to make it illegal because he just came out of compulsive sex therapy. This is the same story with compulsive gamblers, alcoholics, etc who want to get rid of their temptation by making it illegal for everyone because they have personality weaknesses that they can control.
Prostitution Appeal to Be Heard Monday
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I tend to agree with Michel Foucault that sexuality as such should be written out of the law completely.
Another analogy would be tall building window washers. It would be awful if the government were to say that it is not their duty to make the job of window washing as safe as possible just because some people "choose" to be window washers. BTW: How many kids dream of being window washers when they grow up.
To use the window washer analogy, not allowing prostitutes to work in the relatively safe environment of a brothel is like the gov't making it against the law for window washers to use harnesses.
What the fuck are you going on about? They took a picture of her leaving court. Should have they have self censored, thinking we should try to snap a picture of her wearing something different?
Unless the article was ABOUT her clothing, then this is perhaps the stupidist post I've ever seen you make.
Take a sampling of the population for each "referendum" (say 25,000 people each). Compile all the referendums that need voted on for month's end. Have the sampling vote online and make it mandatory or setup an incentive program. Set up training courses for those not proficient in internet use, and set up a system at public libraries for those who don't have access to the internet. How much would that cost?
Not that I'm saying we should go that route and that it wouldn't have problems...
Can’t figure out what the motives are of the ladies who are challenging the law. Anyone figure it out?
The older ladies who seem to be the most vocal might be thinking they can operate agencies, or that somehow the change in the law will reduce competition.
One lady was talking about how she and her friends could not share a 3 bedroom apartment and use it as a brothel legally. If these ladies think they are going to be able to legally operate large brothels in residential buildings, they are dreaming.
The older ladies who seem to be the most vocal might be thinking they can operate agencies, or that somehow the change in the law will reduce competition.
One lady was talking about how she and her friends could not share a 3 bedroom apartment and use it as a brothel legally. If these ladies think they are going to be able to legally operate large brothels in residential buildings, they are dreaming.
One of the plaintiffs certainly has a problem operating a full service dungeon as the law now stands
Ok, that makes sense. People would also be able to open sex clubs like in Germany.
Wonder what affect zoning would have on these clubs. Heard bylaw is going around to some of the incalls in Scarborough and handing out $3000 fines. Was told $3000, but could be wrong amount.
Although I defer to the superior knowledge of my Upper Canada Brethren, I would suppose that a municipality could certainly enact restrictive zoning but that they probably could not just enact a blanket ban.
Really? You can't make a guess as to their motives?
How about to make it safer for sex workers to do their work?
this is the problem, regulating it.
Its the number 1 problem, cause if you regulated it then it be like those Beer stores, every town almost has one.....and not everybody wants them.
The USA just lets shit go on in certain areas and times and if you get too rich/powerful or piss them off they shut you down.
DC had a ton of escort ads in the yellow pages, some had GFE and most said call us first don't get ripped off. I'm thinking if I call I get ripped off for sure, even if the gal didn't think she was, ha ha.
I don't maybe I should had try one or at least call but gee, $250 covered BJ's just don't sound too good
Its the number 1 problem, cause if you regulated it then it be like those Beer stores, every town almost has one.....and not everybody wants them.
The USA just lets shit go on in certain areas and times and if you get too rich/powerful or piss them off they shut you down.
DC had a ton of escort ads in the yellow pages, some had GFE and most said call us first don't get ripped off. I'm thinking if I call I get ripped off for sure, even if the gal didn't think she was, ha ha.
I don't maybe I should had try one or at least call but gee, $250 covered BJ's just don't sound too good
This is best argument I have ever heard, to make life safer for escorts--and SW are escorts--they are, no difference, just cause they might be cheaper doesn't mean shit. Most SW don't hanging around a full hour so per minute they might not be much cheaper.
I just think its sad some strong women--demanding--demeaning women had the guts to do it. No escort owner-strip club owner, nobody with any balls but her.
I also like to bring up New York where they keep finding SW bodies. IF this case turns out in a good way, some people there should start rising alot of heck about NY being allowed like in parts of Nevada to have legal escorts..for the womens safety,,where is that loud mouth bitch women lawyer Gloria Allred, shes got the mouth, money to try something, I thought she was all for to make life better for women
Nice post. Unfortunately your point is not the basis of the original challenge, but imo shOuld honestly be. The government has no business telling me who and under what conditions i fuck. Unless there is a) force/ coercion/ non consensual violence involved or b) my partner is incapable of consent (ie impaired mentally, drugged, or underage). What is morally more objectionable? Agreeing with a consenting partner on terms of a sexual encounter (including money)'or obtaining sex by lying about who you are, what your job is, intentions re relationship etc....
I have mixed feelngs on this case. On one hand i thinknthey might be succesful, but my concern is that our current conservatuve majority gov will be forcEd to do "something" and that the evangelical religious right influence in the party will overrule the "cvil libertarian" faction and impose the "swedish model". This could be a viable solution for the cons and may avoid the issues broght forward in the current case. And who will rise to the cause to defend (the extremely legitimate) right to exchange sex for whatever is agreed upon by two consenting adults. The godfearin conservative base would not stand for a law that "condoned" "hookers"
And as others have said, there aree already existing laws with clear and often severe penalties to prevent trafficking, underage activity and even community nuisace (through zoning/ bylaw rules etc.....)
Focus on the real evils of child abuse, trafficking, etc with all of the resources available. If prostirution itself were legal / decriminalized, both the working girls and clients would be much more willing to help root out the real evil players.
Focus on the real evils of child abuse, trafficking, etc with all of the resources available. If prostirution itself were legal / decriminalized, both the working girls and clients would be much more willing to help root out the real evil players.
What laws will be changed that will make it safer to work as an escort? With the laws changed, what will change in the way escorts do business that will make it safer?
What manner of men (or women) goes to dungeons? I make no moral judgment, just curious.
