If you followed the vote closely you would know this is not what happened.
Weepy has legitimate problems in his Caucus. Then again BO may as well.
The Tea Party's First Victory
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Weepy has legitimate problems in his Caucus. Then again BO may as well.
Again, at the end of the day the US has an abnormally low tax rate, so it is not surprising that Americans find it so hard to balance the budget. Taxes need to rise.
The abnormally low tax rate and the deficit spending it fuels are another example of Americans attempting to live beyond their means. You want a big military and lots of subsidies to your businesses and your lifestyles--but you don't want to pay for them.
The tax rise would mean a reduction in consumption, or a need to work more. A cut to consumption and an increase in productivity is EXACTLY what the US needs to end its international spending problem--which is a net, national spending problem, not really just a government one. You don't like the idea of a tax rise because it would mean individuals would consume less-- buying fewer cars, smaller houses, and fewer HD and 3D TV's, or longer working days, or both.
Underpaying tax is simply one of several ways that Americans attempt to live beyond their means. Sorry I know that's not a popular message and no American politician can win an election on it--that's why you're ultimately a little bit fucked. Your political system is impoverished and is incapable of having a real discussion about the issues of the day. Any politician who brings up this necessary topic--tax rises--is going to be roasted alive by a series of idiotic, ignorant, and stupid sound bites that don't make sense, but will win votes. In the end it will thoroughly bankrupt you, until reality is so unavoidable that you will be forced--far more painfully by then--to confront the issue.
The abnormally low tax rate and the deficit spending it fuels are another example of Americans attempting to live beyond their means. You want a big military and lots of subsidies to your businesses and your lifestyles--but you don't want to pay for them.
The tax rise would mean a reduction in consumption, or a need to work more. A cut to consumption and an increase in productivity is EXACTLY what the US needs to end its international spending problem--which is a net, national spending problem, not really just a government one. You don't like the idea of a tax rise because it would mean individuals would consume less-- buying fewer cars, smaller houses, and fewer HD and 3D TV's, or longer working days, or both.
Underpaying tax is simply one of several ways that Americans attempt to live beyond their means. Sorry I know that's not a popular message and no American politician can win an election on it--that's why you're ultimately a little bit fucked. Your political system is impoverished and is incapable of having a real discussion about the issues of the day. Any politician who brings up this necessary topic--tax rises--is going to be roasted alive by a series of idiotic, ignorant, and stupid sound bites that don't make sense, but will win votes. In the end it will thoroughly bankrupt you, until reality is so unavoidable that you will be forced--far more painfully by then--to confront the issue.
,,, but if they do that using your suggestions it will be a bad day in Dodge. there already been suggestion the Republicans will go after the public school system and if they go after what they call waste the way they have in Wisconsin there will be blood ( there's a movie there somewhere). Going after waste is one thing, but doing it badly, as they have shown they will do in the last few months, is just wrong.
The playbook the conservatives (dare I say reactionaries) are playing everywhere, including in Canada and in the USA, is: First reduce taxes on the rich and spend like drunken sailors on military hence create a large budget deficit, Then cry out for balancing the budget by cutting social spending.
I do think there is a starve the beast strategy here. What I would like to see in the FY 12 budget proposals is cuts to defense spending.
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Of course as we all know, that will lead to job losses in many states affecting many voters.
The most painless way to accomplish this is by ending our two BS Wars of empire that basically cater/feed the MIC! Just bring our troops home and stop wasting all that money in Iraq & Astan. Out troops could go back to being trained Stateside where far less get killed and maimed.....
Obama is unlikely to pull out of Afhghanistan anytime soon, and he'll take his time getting out of Iraq.The most painless way to accomplish this is by ending our two BS Wars of empire that basically cater/feed the MIC! Just bring our troops home and stop wasting all that money in Iraq & Astan. Out troops could go back to being trained Stateside where far less get killed and maimed.....
OKThe most painless way to accomplish this is by ending our two BS Wars of empire that basically cater/feed the MIC! Just bring our troops home and stop wasting all that money in Iraq & Astan. Out troops could go back to being trained Stateside where far less get killed and maimed.....
What is your exit plan for both??
Woodie, a plan? He'll basically take the 5th graders solution, pack up and go home, screw them. Ok, a 5th grader from Appalachia.
That is what will happen eventually, so why not save the money and lives and do it right away?
Do not be too critical of him
You need to see bigger pictures.
I will await woody's comprehensive plan.
In fact I will hold him to it.
Will you?
What is you exit plans for both fronts??
How about showing us you know of what you speak?
I am more inserted in your words.
You believe yourself to be smarter then most.
The time has come to cal you on it.
