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papasmerf

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Are you trying to tell me that someone who's living under the poverty line has internet and cable service in their shack. Reality check time PS. I

I'll bet the farm you can't live on 12G's a year. If you say yes, I'll call BS and I bet I'm not alone.

The fist part is a bet you will lose.

And the second question is distorted in that you have yet to add in rent, electric, gas ect.
 

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And how many people below the poverty line and receivng meager welfare checks and food stamps do you suppose have IPHONES?
You should take a trip to the hood and see for yourself
 

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You should take a trip to the hood and see for yourself
So this is pappy's personal indicator of where welfare dollars go, based on your own data of course. Federal welfare payments for family and children services amount to less than 3% of the budget. Why don't you try living on a few hundred dollars a month and get back to us.
 

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So this is pappy's personal indicator of where welfare dollars go, based on your own data of course. Federal welfare payments for family and children services amount to less than 3% of the budget. Why don't you try living on a few hundred dollars a month and get back to us.
I chose to work.

And at times had to live on a few hundred a month.

I am not say that cutting welfare will solve the budget problems. As a matter of fact I never indicated that would be the only places I would cut.
 

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I chose to work.

And at times had to live on a few hundred a month.

I am not say that cutting welfare will solve the budget problems. As a matter of fact I never indicated that would be the only places I would cut.
Then why did you bring that up first, when it really is a very minor part of the federal budget? And given that, why do you think it would help to cut family and children welfare payments by the amount you are suggesting?
 

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Maybe in the US but up here my cable is $65 for more channels than I can watch and my IPhin( yes wodrow I have an iPhone) cost $60.
LOL!
But in your heart of hearts you know I knew that already.....:p
 

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Then why did you bring that up first, when it really is a very minor part of the federal budget? And given that, why do you think it would help to cut family and children welfare payments by the amount you are suggesting?
easy one to answer. I was merely showing you can cut and not affect.

I realize I attacked a sacred cow but sometimes you just have to say, what the fuck, and just do it.

I can assure you that no one will take away the cable or the cell phones. Mostly because I am not in charge.
 

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You should take a trip to the hood and see for yourself
Very farking TRUE JAJA!
I see them ALL the times sitting on the dashboards of their welfare Cadillacs! I'm shocked just SHOCKED at this, just like you!.....:mad:
 

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Very farking TRUE JAJA!
I see them ALL the times sitting on the dashboards of their welfare Cadillacs! I'm shocked just SHOCKED at this, just like you!.....:mad:
No woories woody, you will keep your cable and Iphone
 

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easy one to answer. I was merely showing you can cut and not affect.
The average welfare check is around $366 a month, with an $80 grant per child. This is really something that needs cutting?
 

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The average welfare check is around $366 a month, with an $80 grant per child. This is really something that needs cutting?
hmmmmmmmmm

You might not be counting rent and utility vouchers in that.
 

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hmmmmmmmmm

You might not be counting rent and utility vouchers in that.
Yeah, if you were in charge you could cut that too and let them live in their welfare Cadillac...:rolleyes:
 

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hmmmmmmmmm

You might not be counting rent and utility vouchers in that.
Hmmmmmmmm, you would't last 5 days with such "extravagant" benefits. I find it amazing that people like you continue to target those that have the least.
 

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OTB you and I agree on many issues, and to a certain extent, i do accept the premise that the POTUS definitely has an agenda when it comes to green jobs and tax breaks to companies that the dems favor, same thing with the repubs. But, I think the corporate elite have become content with the status quo, only way for the economy to get back is if companies, small or big start hiring. Then maybe housing will recover.

I agree that small companies, are the backbone of job creation, but why would they hire when the multi-nationals are still laying off people even with historic profits? What would give them confidence and the moxy to wager the limited amounts of cash they have when the signals they get from the street is to stay put and invest overseas, as you have said.

My point is, whats the point of government lowering corporate tax for companies to reinvest here, when they are already enjoying record profits while the country is experiencing 10% or 9% unemployment. Its not like they aren't profitable already, so why hire? what's the incentive?

What does corporate America have to gain right now to hire more people and help the economy if they are making good money at this point? Right now i think its in their best interest to just have the status quo.

As I said im no lib or left of center person, but after TARP, and all the stabilizing monetary policies that has happend that have led to a more stable market and banking system, where are the jobs? Im getting cynical of it all, would a corporate tax of 0% really lead to more jobs at this point?

Well said.
 
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