Any reports of looting and murder in Japan?

hinz

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So why is it that the Japanese weren't so polite and well behaved during the rape of Nanking? Anyone? Anyone?

Please advise on that one if you can.

Thanks!
Were you one of those netizens who jump for joy and curse the Japanese all the way up to their grandparents after watching what's going on in Japan? :rolleyes:

Or are you and Shintarō Ishihara related?

Speaking of Nanking (should be Nanjing), you forget to mention Unit 731.

Nice try but totally inappropriate.
 

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Were you one of those netizens who jump for joy and curse the Japanese all the way up to their grandparents after watching what's going on in Japan? :rolleyes:

Or are you and Shintarō Ishihara related?

Speaking of Nanking (should be Nanjing), you forget to mention Unit 731.

Nice try but totally inappropriate.
Totally inappropriate?

How so?

If the claim is that the Japanese are all saints, while the Haitians and poor blacks of New Orleans are all sinners, how is bringing up evidence of the sins of the Japanese (cultural or otherwise) inappropriate or irrelevant?

Do tell...

I have nothing against the Japanese myself. I do have a problem with people suggesting that some people are better than others based on one aspect of their behaviour as a group. Seems to me that the Japanese, just like every one else on this rock called Earth are merely humans and that we would be mistaken in our thinking or our arguments to suggest otherwise.

The record of humanity speaks for itself everywhere and it is everywhere basically the same to varying degrees. Don't believe me? Read the history. It speaks for itself. It's all roses and sunshine to varying degrees right?

Or am I mistaken?
 

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You should ask my grandfather who was a POW in the pacific that question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes





"Many historians state that the Japanese government and individual military personnel engaged in widespread looting during the period of 1895 to 1945.[82] The stolen property included private land, as well as many different kinds of valuable goods looted from banks, depositories, temples, churches, other commercial premises, mosques, museums and private homes.

Sterling and Peggy Seagrave, in their 2003 book Gold Warriors: America's secret recovery of Yamashita's gold—report that secret repositories of loot from across Southeast Asia, were created by the Japanese military in the Philippines during 1942–45. They allege that the theft was organized on a massive scale, either by yakuza gangsters such as Yoshio Kodama, or by officials at the behest of Emperor Hirohito, who wanted to ensure that as many of the proceeds as possible went to the government. The Seagraves also allege that Hirohito appointed his brother, Prince Chichibu, to head a secret organisation called Kin no yuri (Golden Lily) for this purpose."
 

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So why is it that the Japanese weren't so polite and well behaved during the rape of Nanking? Anyone? Anyone?

Please advise on that one if you can.

Thanks!

It's war. And it sucks. And it's disgusting.

That's why War is Hell

It's a fine line between good and evil. And both sides commit atrocities.
 

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Japan isn't the only country that hunts whales http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling#Modern_whaling and yet they are singled out almost exclusively.
Correct. USSR took in thousands of larger endangered whale species, defying IWC agreements.

However Haiti has completely exhausted its own resources. The soil is infertile, the trees have been cut down for wood. The difference between Haiti and Dominican can be noticed from space.

satellite images comparing both:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/travel/55743d1262634209-haiti-haiti-border.gif
http://www.earthsangha.org/tb/tbmsn.html
 

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If the claim is that the Japanese are all saints, while the Haitians and poor blacks of New Orleans are all sinners, how is bringing up evidence of the sins of the Japanese (cultural or otherwise) inappropriate or irrelevant?

Do tell...

I have nothing against the Japanese myself. I do have a problem with people suggesting that some people are better than others based on one aspect of their behaviour as a group. Seems to me that the Japanese, just like every one else on this rock called Earth are merely humans
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As individuals people from an advanced nation in the developed world like Japan
are no more or no less human than people from nations in the developing
world like Haiti. This is no revelation but a point that most people would
accept. What may be overlooked is that human behaviour of societies
from two such different worlds could be rather different in many aspects
in times of crisis. The population of Haiti mostly live in abject poverty
whereas Japanese population are the most educated and affluent in the
world. As an advanced society Japan is naturally better prepared for
disaster than Haiti. Being a well educated and affluent people Japanese
are naturally less inclined to loot than Haitians. But I think there is more
to this than just being a country in the developed world. After all the U.S.
is the world's best place to live in in many aspects and yet I won't want to
get stuck in New Orleans after Katrina or in L.A. through the Rodney King
riots. Japan is essentially a one-race island country. By comparison
Japanese live in a homogeneous society without the kind of racial
tensions lurking in America. Perhaps it is because they are descendants
of fisherman crowded together on an island harmony and cooperativeness
are two unique characteristics of the Japanese that have evolved in their
history which make them more adaptable to natural disaster.

For the record I am not a Japanese and I abhor the atrocities they committed
in WWII. But, all things being equal, I would also say that I will feel safer in
Japan through a crisis like this Tsunami than in any other country in the world.
 

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You should ask my grandfather who was a POW in the pacific that question.
And what was your grandfather reaction after witnessing this 8.9 earthquake and the Japanese lives lost? Nothing? gan bei? :eek:
 

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Who gives a fuck about whales and dolphins.

Perhaps it's a sign of superior humanity to treat animals like the beasts they are.
You of Asian decent?
 

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Nope, I'm black. 6'10 with a 11 inch cock if it makes any difference to you.
 

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Haven't you been following this thread? Everyone says of asians that they are INDECENT.
Most Asian chix I've come across are very decent.....
 

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Nope, I'm black. 6'10 with a 11 inch cock if it makes any difference to you.

Maybe that's why your eHarmony application didn't go through?
Poor attitude.
Work on it, maybe you'll eventually meet your match.
 

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No looting, just keeping calm and carrying on: Ordinary Japanese try to get back to normality

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:50 PM on 15th March 2011

Japanese people affected by the earthquake and tsunami maintained a quiet dignity today as they patiently queued for water and food.

Survivors were seen searching for loved ones or helping to clean up streets with few explosions of anger, despite the severity of the tragedy.

Only near the troubled Fukushima nuclear plant, where fears of radiation leaks are frightening residents, were tempers seen to fray.
Stoic: Ordinary Japanese people strive to help each other in the wake of the disaster in Ishinomaki, Miyagi prefecture

Stoic: Ordinary Japanese people strive to help each other in the wake of the disaster in Ishinomaki, Miyagi prefecture

Osamu Hayasaka was among those receiving free drinks handed out by the owners of a shop in Tagajo, north-eastern Japan.

'There are a lot of older people near where I live, so I'll give them some of this,' the 61-year-old said, strapping two boxes onto his bicycle.

His extended family of six has no power, intermittent water and little food.

But, he said, he is not angry at the government; he understands that officials have other priorities.

Japan is a nation of 127 million people with a long history of disasters, both manmade and natural, from a 1923 earthquake that killed 142,800 in the Tokyo region to the country's entry into the Second World War, which ended with the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

All through these and more recent traumas, including a 1995 earthquake that killed 6,400 in Kobe, the Japanese have endured and rebuilt their country with a usually quiet and uncomplaining resolve.

The earthquake and ensuing tsunami killed untold thousands and left many more without shelter and electricity and struggling to find water, fuel and food.

Even as rescuers begin to reach them, officials are desperately trying to prevent serious radiation leaks from the Fukushima nuclear reactors.

Amid the chaos, foreign journalists have remarked on the polite demeanour, the lack of anger, the little if any looting or profiteering that seems to characterise disasters elsewhere.

An American academic, Robert Dujarric, was stuck in a halted bullet train overnight after the earthquake.

Passengers remained calm and didn't pester train staff with questions, said Mr Dujarric, the director of the Institute of Contemporary Japanese Studies at the Temple University campus in Tokyo.

'If you have to spend 16 hours in a stationary train and an additional nine hours getting home, do it in Japan.'

Two phrases offer some insight into the Japanese psyche.

One is 'shikata ga nai', which roughly translates as 'it can't be helped,' and is a common reaction to situations beyond one's control.

The other is 'gaman', considered a virtue. It means to be patient and persevere in the face of suffering.

Theories abound on what makes the Japanese so resilient and prone to group effort.
Bitter experience: Natural disasters are not uncommon in Japan. In 1995 thousands died in the Kobe earthquake

Some cite the centuries-old need to work together to grow rice on a crowded archipelago prone to natural disasters.

Others point to the hierarchical nature of human relations and a keen fear of shaming oneself before others.

'It strikes me as a Buddhist attitude,' Glenda Roberts, an anthropology professor at Tokyo's Waseda University, said.

'Westerners might tend to see it as passivity, but it's not that. It takes a lot of strength to stay calm in the face of terror.'

While those near the nuclear plants are understandably jittery, survivors elsewhere seem at least outwardly calm.
 
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