Any reports of looting and murder in Japan?

[carpaltunnel]

lol

Boys, let's face it - Oprah, your undergrad profs or Guns, Germs and Steel are your steadfast authority for your proposition re Haiti. Japan will recover regardless - it will always be strong and recover because of its strong culture. Haiti will never recover and never be strong. Oprah your undergrad profs and Jared Diamond will be rather embarassing footnotes in recent history and vanish from history within 50 years.

 

[asterwald]

anyone ever notice that usually the people who are most vocal and obsessed about how other races are uncivilized etc are usually the dregs of society themselves. e.g. hyperdog, he was obsessed about race and then we found out he was a low skilled worker with no future prospects and was worried about dating his boss' daughter.

No one is mentioning race. Its culture.
You may go on and make random extrapolations of random people based off random posting on various internet boards. This was actually a discussion that arose in my place of work. There were black members of the firm present as well. Many agreed with the premise, that there was far less crime and looting in Japan.

 

[fuji]

If I had been in New Orleans black or white I would thought my own government didn't give two shits about me.

Correct. The areas hit hard in NO were mostly poor areas populated by black people. The government really didn't care....

 

[fuji]

They have vending machines on the streets in Japan that sell beer. They also have a drinking age. Under-age kids don't buy beer from the vending machine because it isn't allowed... they wouldn't want to bring shame on their families if they were caught.

 

[alwayslooking]

anyone ever notice that usually the people who are most vocal and obsessed about how other races are uncivilized etc are usually the dregs of society themselves. e.g. hyperdog, he was obsessed about race and then we found out he was a low skilled worker with no future prospects and was worried about dating his boss' daughter.

This is douchey on so many levels.

 

[mmouse]

There is a certain -ahem- culture or segment of the population that was quit visible in both New Orleans and Los Angeles in the Rodney King riots.

And in Haiti now that I think of it.

I doubt even the poorest, most oppressed members of Japanese society would resort to looting.


(Ok, who is going to be the first to say that not ALL (of whatever particular ethnicity) are looting thieves? And the first to fill the the blank and infer they read my mind and therefore I am a racist?)

I only have one problem with your post: if you really believe in what you're saying, just come out and say "black people". Don't be such a fucking pussy.

The "racist" word is basically useless now. Nobody knows what it means. Of course if this kind of event occurred in an area of low income blacks, there would be widespread looting. The real question is so what? What exactly is the fucking point you want to make?

 

[Aardvark154]

If I had been in New Orleans black or white I would thought my own government didn't give two shits about me.

Let's see State and Parrish Governements notorious for corruption (particularly Levee Boards); a city litteraly under water. Govermental agencies that haven't said move, but rather we will help you rebuild.

 

[djk]

No, you're quite correct.

Japan will be up and running and fully recovered from this BEFORE Haiti has even begun to think about cleaning up the streets. (I'd be willing to bet that most if not all of the aid money (if it ever even got to Haiti) will just be pocketed by corrupt local bureaucrats in Haiti.

It gets tired being called a racist when you are just stating the obvious. The Japanese are an industrious, hard working, meticulous people and they will pick themselves up from this. The Haitians - not so much.

Spot on.

 

[mmouse]

Im sorry but when groups of people react drastically different given a tragic event and total breakdown of authority...
No gang rapes, no machete swinging

Japanese only do that in the presence of authority - e.g. in China during WWII.

 

[djk]

Speaking of Yakuza, not going to be shocked the Yakuza are going to administer and organize aid to the victims faster and more efficient like in Kobe 1995 before the governments and the bureaucrats pick up the speed.

http://www.jpri.org/publications/occasionalpapers/op2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaguchi-gumi#Relief_support_after_the_Kobe_Earthquake

You're right. And I think this says a lot about the Japanese people. I've never heard of an organized crime syndicate using its authority and network to help out victims of a natural disaster. Compare the Yamaguchi-gumi's actions to other organized crime groups around the world.

 

[rld]

The point about homogeneity can be used as a con of multi-ethnic states, which all over the world seem to be in constant turmoil.

You mean like Canada and the US?

 

[rld]

Looting would be extremely unlikely in Japan. That's because it is not a christian nation. The more christian a place is, the more that looting is probable after a natural disaster.

You mean like in Italy or South Korea?

Talk about thoughtless ad hominen garbage...

 

[rld]

Im sorry but when groups of people react drastically different given a tragic event and total breakdown of authority. The question to be asked is why?

Could such behavior be the reason Japan is wealthy and Haiti is dirt poor despite billions of aid?

Anyhow kudos to the Japanese. No gang rapes, no machete swinging, no anarchy.

There are some really wonderful things about Japanese culture.

And some really bad things. Including really serious racism.

 

[5hummer]

And some really bad things. Including really serious racism.

Ya, like that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world (e.g. Canada).

 

[Gyaos]

Katrina was looter heaven, how does Japan compare?

It's as simple as this. No tipping = no looting. End of thread.

Gyaos Baltar.

 

[spraggamuffin]

I'm sure a couple really out there and farfetched fetish videos may come out of it though. We talking fetish capital of the world here.

 

[rld]

Ya, like that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world (e.g. Canada).

Which culture would you suggest is more racist? Canada or Japan?

 

[rld]

http://www.jpri.org/publications/occasionalpapers/op2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaguchi-gumi#Relief_support_after_the_Kobe_Earthquake

You're right. And I think this says a lot about the Japanese people. I've never heard of an organized crime syndicate using its authority and network to help out victims of a natural disaster. Compare the Yamaguchi-gumi's actions to other organized crime groups around the world.

Then you have not done your homework. Or have much of an understanding about how organized crime traditionally works.

 

[5hummer]

Which culture would you suggest is more racist? Canada or Japan?

Are we generalizing?

In Canada, there are plenty of cases of severe racism, and the violence that follows.
(Asian fisherman attacked in Ontario towns. South Asian family hires a hitman to kill their daughter because she was seeing someone NOT of her race, etc., etc.)

In Japan, obviously racism with different cultures (Chinese, Westerners, African, etc.). But, slow gradual acceptance, with the increase with business interests and western education.

Both Canada & Japan are relatively young countries in dealing with these issues (1-2 centuries) and it becomes a generational issue over time.

 

[wet_suit_one]

So why is it that the Japanese weren't so polite and well behaved during the rape of Nanking? Anyone? Anyone?

Please advise on that one if you can.

Thanks!