A Million Dead Americans
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You must be turning LIBERAL and fundy christian.
Abortions are legally performed on women who don't want their pregnancy. If you stop abortions how will you pay for those millions of children born? Will you expand Welfare and create a bigger government bureaucracy, since obviously these women will give up their children? Or more likely is abortion merely used as a cheap divisive 'wedge issue' for partisan gain....
More widely available and easier to get contraception and better sex education, would drastically reduce abortion rates but most of your conservative crowd are even against that!
A wee bit of a demographic difference between the two cities as well.
For instance Detroit’s demographics: 81.6 % Black, 12.3 % White, 1.0 % Asian,
Windsor by contrast: 81.8 % White, 2.4 % Black, 3.4 % Asian
Also a large difference in poverty and educational levels.
What kind of bone headed response is this? Sure, everybody will die at one point or another, so the cause of death is of no significance? It can be safely assumed that a very large proportion of these million deaths would not have occurred if there were not 85 guns in circulation for every 100 Americans. A million people killed by guns in a modern industrialized country that is not experiencing war on its own soil is a staggeringly large number of deaths. There is no way diminishing the seriousness of the issue.
Under 0.0037 percent of the U.S. population is murdered by firearm.
Yes, I believe that we can all agree that murder is not a moral good, however, .0037 percent a moral crisis, I think not.
I would hate to be one of those 0.0037% or related to or a friend of one. Even if the number is around 500,000, that is almost double the number of Americans killed by enemy action in WW II and that was a world war. If I heard Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy correctly she said the number is one million. If it is one million that is more than the number of Americans killed in the Civil War where Northern Virgina was a killing field. There has to be a serious flaw in a society where so many are murdered.
True enough, however, vast numbers of U.S. Nationals never know anyone who is murdered by firearm.
Where does this statistic come from? Are you saying less than 1% of all murders in the USA is firearms related or are you dividing firearms deaths against the population of the country? Those are different things.
I read a statistic that said just for Arizona 60.1% of the murders that were commited there were firearms murders. That was in 2009. For the country 13,636 murders of which, 9,146 were caused by firearms.
Whobee, you I know, are quite able to tell the difference between "percent of the U.S. polulation is murdered by firearm", and "percent of murders in the U.S. are committed with a firearm."
I know, but your number seems to trivialize the issue. You could just as easily say that a really small percentage of people are actually murdered at all.
The 9,000 people is a lot to me.
Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy's husband was murdered by gunfire on the Long Island train and her son was wounded in the same incident.
What a stupid response!
First, perhaps some of those parents might actually take responsibility for raising those children, and since when are conservatives against people who take responsibility for their sexual health? This is a little closed minded for someone who is riding such a tall horse.
It is both. If it is a member of your family it is a lot of people. From a national perspective and the TERB "run in circles scream and shout," that indeed is the point it is a very small number of people.
However, what Macleans doesn't mention is that the later number includes a) suicides b) fatal acidental shootings (most of which are self-inflicted) c) legaly permissible shootings as well as d) homicides. The actual number of murders by firearm for the last year for which there are figures is the number I gave.
Well considering the small numbers killed in 9/11 I guess you don't think that comprised a crisis?
What would that percentage be?
How about the total number of Americans killed by terrorists in the last 50 years?
What is the threshold that requires a reaction?
In other words, the US is one of the safest countries in the world because pretty much anyone has access to a firearm.
Oh... wait a sec...
I just don't buy into the % analysis.
To my mind, an American life saved is an American life saved, whether it be from cancer, or gun violence, or car crashes or terrorists.
Of those million+ deaths by firearms in the past 42 years, almost 60% of those are by suicide. The majority of these deaths by suicide wouldn't have been prevented if guns weren't available as they would have just found another way to kill themselves. If we look at 2004 as a base year there were 16,150 homicides, of which about 2/3 were gun related. Of those gun deaths approx. 40% were perpetrated by young black males. To put in perspective 12.5% of the U.S. population is black. My guess is that 1/3 of those are black males under 30. So in effect 4% of the population is committing 40% of the total gun homicides. Maybe legislators should be focusing on this instead of demonizing gun owners, the overwhelming majority being responsible law abiding citizens.
