War on Public Transit

[Brill]

If the $60 vehicle registration fee was a "War on the Car", isn't the proposed TTC fair hike a "War on Public Transit"?
It works out to about the same amount per year. This budget doesn't put "hard earned money back in taxpayers pockets". It just takes transit riders' hard earned money, and puts it in the pockets of drivers.

http://www.thestar.com/article/919082

 

[buckwheat1]

remember I told you folks this ford guy was an idiot

 

[onehunglow]

If the $60 vehicle registration fee was a "War on the Car", isn't the proposed TTC fair hike a "War on Public Transit"?
It works out to about the same amount per year. This budget doesn't put "hard earned money back in taxpayers pockets". It just takes transit riders' hard earned money, and puts it in the pockets of drivers.

http://www.thestar.com/article/919082

Too early to panic about a ttc fare hike. In a few days we will see if the commission changes its mind after some talks with Ford and its managers.

 

[Questor]

Higher TTC fares = more people decide to drive instead of taking subway = more traffic on the streets.

This is really working out well.

 

[shack]

It just takes transit riders' hard earned money, and puts it in the pockets of drivers.

How do drivers directly benefit financially from an increase in TTC fares?

Were there no TTC increases during David (Mr Transit) Miller's tenure? If there were, how many were there?

 

[mediaguy]

Come on folks. We're taking 10 cents here.
Most people wouldn't stoop to pick-up a dime off the sidewalk if they saw it.

 

[fuji]

How do drivers directly benefit financially from an increase in TTC fares?

At least the perception here is that the $60 that drivers saved on the repealed licensing is being paid for by TTC riders.

 

[Brill]

Come on folks. We're taking 10 cents here.
Most people wouldn't stoop to pick-up a dime off the sidewalk if they saw it.

The $60 vehicle tax works out to about 16 cents a day and we heard a lot of crying about that.

 

[flubadub]

Come on folks. We're taking 10 cents here.
Most people wouldn't stoop to pick-up a dime off the sidewalk if they saw it.

We're already talking about a service that's $3 each way.
Travel with two or three and its already cheaper to take a cab quite often.

 

[Doug]

Having just returned from Paris, I consider any rise in transit fees to be an incentive to drive cars. In Paris you can purchase a ticket for .80 Euro, which is now about $1.00. With that you have access to a vast subway plus surface transit, and the urban rail system into the burbs.
Doug

 

[Questor]

Having just returned from Paris, I consider any rise in transit fees to be an incentive to drive cars. In Paris you can purchase a ticket for .80 Euro, which is now about $1.00. With that you have access to a vast subway plus surface transit, and the urban rail system into the burbs.
Doug

Yeah, but do they have fiberglass moose?

 

[5hummer]

If you're stupid enough to trust & believe a Politician -- then you're stupid.

 

[hamermill]

After collecting $65 Million dollars, did the roads get better?

Was there more public transit, cleaner bus, subways? No. The vehicle tax was an unfair tax as it made drivers pay to lower property taxes and pay for municpal services. The 10 cent increase per token will be used to pay for transit services and will be paid by people who use transit.

It will target 905ers who benefit the TTC without contributing a dime via theri property taxes.

What a novel concept to make people pay for the services they use.

 

[Brill]

Everyone pays for roads, not just drivers.
Even pedestrians are forced to subsidize the convenience of drivers.

The $60 tax was small way for drivers to pay for the damage they cause in our lives.

 

[shack]

If you're stupid enough to trust & believe a Politician -- then you're stupid.

Did Ford promise no TTC increases?

Again, David Miller was a champion of alternatives to the car. How many TTC increases during his time in office?

 

[fuji]

AThe vehicle tax was an unfair tax as it made drivers pay to lower property taxes and pay for municpal services.

Drivers don't pay their fair share to begin with. Taxpayers in general heavily subsidize car drivers. The $60 fee didn't come anywhere close to putting it back in balance, the fee should have been nearer $1000.

Of course that would be politically unacceptable--drivers are so used to getting a free ride, sucking on the taxpayer's tit, that if they were made to pay their own way they would be fucking livid. It's reality though.

Drivers appear to believe that they are entitled to free roads paid for by people who don't drive. It's an astonishing sense of entitlement!

 

[lovelatinas]

Come on folks. We're taking 10 cents here.
Most people wouldn't stoop to pick-up a dime off the sidewalk if they saw it.

Well now I will.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Come on folks. We're taking 10 cents here.
Most people wouldn't stoop to pick-up a dime off the sidewalk if they saw it.

Thank you. It's still cheaper than driving. Gas goes up on long weekends.

 

[Ihavewood]

Meh, I like that I am saving $60 on the vehicle tax. Driving and parking downtown is still cheaper than taking the TTC both ways.

 

[fuji]

Meh, I like that I am saving $60 on the vehicle tax. Driving and parking downtown is still cheaper than taking the TTC both ways.

Taking the TTC both ways is $5, less if you have a pass. Where are you parking downtown for $5 and where do you get gas for free?