LCD, LED or Plasma?

[b1icaj27]

Kinda surprised no one mentioned the burn in issues with plasma screens. If you play games or leave a news feed channel on all day, plasma screens eventually get a ghosting effect that does not go away.

Burn in was the only factor that mattered for me to go with an LCD panel.

As for LED, go for it if you can afford it. Standard LCD's are lit with a florescent light and they use a lot of power. I have an older 46" Samsung LCD in my bedrrom and it raises the temperature 5 degree F. Great in the winter, not so great in the summer.

 

[cwk]

personally, i think my next tv will be a plasma...being that they have a faster response time and have better colours (darker darks). If you watch lots of sports or action movies, i think a plasma is the way to go.

it all depends on what you watch and want, i've seen the ghosting effect on the Lcds and it does annoye me, plasma much better in this department.

as mentioned above, i don't think the "burn in" issue is as relevant as in the past...and wouldn't hold me back from buying one.

 

[Tangwhich]

Anything more than 720p is wasted unless you watch BlueRay movies or video game.

How do you figure? If you use your ATSC tuner (as I do), then I believe all the channels coming through except for one are 1080i. No way would I buy a TV that's only 720p

 

[toughb]

Bought a 46" Sharp Quatron about six weeks ago and find the picture to be excellent. It's an LED and not 3D.

Did know before hand that the no glasses 3D TV will be here in about a year and that the 3D glasses from one manufacture will not work with a competitor.

I also checked at the time how many movies were being released in 2011 in 3D. I found 10 and 5 were childrens movies. Hence the LED.

 

[Nascarfan]

Bought a 46" Sharp Quatron about six weeks ago and find the picture to be excellent. It's an LED and not 3D.

Did know before hand that the no glasses 3D TV will be here in about a year and that the 3D glasses from one manufacture will not work with a competitor.

I also checked at the time how many moves were being released in 2011 in 3D. I found 10 and 5 were childrens movies. Hence the LED.

3D without glasses will be limited to under 37" screen sizes and you have to be dead centre to view it in 3D.

 

[Nascarfan]

Burn in was an issue years ago but not anymore (for top tier plasma makers anyways). You may get image retention but it goes away in a few minutes when you watch regular programing. Check out www.avsforum.com. There's lots of good info. Many people have bought plasma's for gaming because of the faster response times and nobody's complained about burn-in.

 

[A Quarter Inch Fall]

personally, i think my next tv will be a plasma...being that they have a faster response time and have better colours (darker darks). If you watch lots of sports or action movies, i think a plasma is the way to go.

it all depends on what you watch and want, i've seen the ghosting effect on the Lcds and it does annoye me, plasma much better in this department.

as mentioned above, i don't think the "burn in" issue is as relevant as in the past...and wouldn't hold me back from buying one.

I purchased a 42" LG plasma this Christmas for around $480 plus the taxes and I like it. Sure there are better TV's out there but this one offered great bang for the buck I think although yes its only 720p but it's good enough for me. Good clear natural looking picture even though I have standard def digital cable. In fact my standard def digital picture on this tv looks way better then watching standard def digital on other peoples LCD's I've watched. It seems to me LCDs need high def to look good but this LG plasma really does look good without it.

One little thing I do notice this tv does that my friends LCDs don't is there is a rather loud buzz when you listen from behind. It doesn't really bother me you can't hear it from the front even with the sound on mute but put you head behind the tv and its rather loud. Is this normal for plasmas to do this?

 

[A Quarter Inch Fall]

How do you figure? If you use your ATSC tuner (as I do), then I believe all the channels coming through except for one are 1080i. No way would I buy a TV that's only 720p

I may be wrong but isn't 720p consider to be a better picture then 1080i? The progressive of the 720 trumps the 1080s interlaced I thought.

 

[CapitalGuy]

I have a 1991 Emmerson 27" fat-back TV with one video plug in back, in the spare bedroom. The picture quality is fantastic. Yes I can appreciate the exceptional clarity of my HD LCD TV, but I deliberately examine the clarity of the screen on the old beast and, time and again, I conclude that the picture quality is fantastic.

All that to say....we are too wrapped up in seeking perfection in some technology. If an ancient knock-off set from 1991 has exceptional clarity then certainly even a crappy LCD or plasma is spectacular quality. The debate is over the 98% perfect solution versus the 99% perfect solution.

 

[ollo]

I may be wrong but isn't 720p consider to be a better picture then 1080i? The progressive of the 720 trumps the 1080s interlaced I thought.

you are correct
1080i refreshes every 2nd row of pixels per cycle
720p refreshes every row of pixels per cycle

and Plasma is certainly the 'better' way to go for watching sports that do a lot of camera panning

 

[A Quarter Inch Fall]

you are correct
1080i refreshes every 2nd row of pixels per cycle
720p refreshes every row of pixels per cycle

and Plasma is certainly the 'better' way to go for watching sports that do a lot of camera panning

Word.

 

[A Quarter Inch Fall]

I have a 1991 Emmerson 27" fat-back TV with one video plug in back, in the spare bedroom. The picture quality is fantastic. Yes I can appreciate the exceptional clarity of my HD LCD TV, but I deliberately examine the clarity of the screen on the old beast and, time and again, I conclude that the picture quality is fantastic.

All that to say....we are too wrapped up in seeking perfection in some technology. If an ancient knock-off set from 1991 has exceptional clarity then certainly even a crappy LCD or plasma is spectacular quality. The debate is over the 98% perfect solution versus the 99% perfect solution.

I gave away a mint Sony KV-32HS510 like this http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-FD-Trinitron-32-FLAT-SCREEN-TV-WEGA-STAND-/350259912556 I bought for a song off someone a year and a bit ago on kijiji who "upgraded" to a big inch sexy thin LCD or plasma like I just did. That TV was the best of the 4:3 CRTs ever in my opinion. There is a reason why it cost that original owner nearly $3000 back in 2004 and my new 42" plasma $500 now. I know.

I know.

 

[Tangwhich]

I may be wrong but isn't 720p consider to be a better picture then 1080i? The progressive of the 720 trumps the 1080s interlaced I thought.

I've never done a comparison to know for sure. I would have to imagine that if 720p was better than broadcasters would be using it. Most of them are not so that must have some meaning. Even if we assume that 720p is better, I'm sure we can agree that 1080p is better still. Many blu-rays, PS3 games and even HD on demand with some providers (I believe bell is one of them with their new system) work in 1080p. I would say that buying a 720p TV is about as foolish as buying a betamax at the beginning of the VCR wars.

 

[A Quarter Inch Fall]

I've never done a comparison to know for sure. I would have to imagine that if 720p was better than broadcasters would be using it. Most of them are not so that must have some meaning. Even if we assume that 720p is better, I'm sure we can agree that 1080p is better still. Many blu-rays, PS3 games and even HD on demand with some providers (I believe bell is one of them with their new system) work in 1080p. I would say that buying a 720p TV is about as foolish as buying a betamax at the beginning of the VCR wars.

1080p is better then 720p yes. If you can tell the difference. I can't. I'll keep the big lump of change in my pocket.

 

[splooge]

I try and keep it simple:

Plasma will ghost after a few years use. Even the most current, and expensive units.

LED/LCD does not, but doesn't have the contrast performance of plasma.

If you keep the same tv for more than 3 years- go LED/LCD

 

[kwguy]

I try and keep it simple:

Plasma will ghost after a few years use. Even the most current, and expensive units.

LED/LCD does not, but doesn't have the contrast performance of plasma.

If you keep the same tv for more than 3 years- go LED/LCD

had several plasmas and not had that problem

 

[Tangwhich]

1080p is better then 720p yes. If you can tell the difference. I can't. I'll keep the big lump of change in my pocket.

Like I said I've not compared. However I saw spiderman 3 in 1080p and it was mind blowing. I cannot imagine that it would look as good as it did in 720p

 

[WoodPeckr]

had several plasmas and not had that problem

Which one will last longer and retain peak performance the longest Plasma, LCD or LED?

 

[A Quarter Inch Fall]

What TV to buy? Any advice would be appreciated.
I did a search and the latest post I could find was dated June. I believe a lot has changed in the last 6 months.

Lots of info on cnet.com like this...

http://reviews.cnet.com/tv-buying-guide/?tag=centerColumnArea1.0;buyAdvice

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/?tag=centerColumnArea1.0;buyAdvice

Consumer Reports as well like this....

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...tv-lcd-or-plasma-tv-/tv-lcd-or-plasma-tv-.htm

 

[ollo]

I've never done a comparison to know for sure. I would have to imagine that if 720p was better than broadcasters would be using it. Most of them are not so that must have some meaning. Even if we assume that 720p is better, I'm sure we can agree that 1080p is better still. Many blu-rays, PS3 games and even HD on demand with some providers (I believe bell is one of them with their new system) work in 1080p. I would say that buying a 720p TV is about as foolish as buying a betamax at the beginning of the VCR wars.

Expressvu Satellite broadcasts their HD channels in 720P

Note that the comparison above was 1080i vs 720p
1080i is basically 540 x2
720p is 720 x1
1080p is 1080 x1

it is all about the pixels and when they refresh

1080i refreshes 540 pixels in 1 cycle, and then the other 1/2 of the pixels in the next cycle

720p refreshes all 720 pixels each cycle

1080p refreshes all 1080 pixels each cycle

so, in reality 1080i is lower then 720p... and 1080p is better then 720p


... and I have had a 1080i, 50" plasma as the main sports TV since 2006 -- and it works great