Racist or what?

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Fairchild cable TV's Cantonese only candidate debate in Markham and Richmond Hill.

If you're not Chinese you can't debate and you're not invited.

Is that what our country was built on? Discrimination?

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Only whites can be racist
 

toughb

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Only whites can be racist
Papa I know you're smart. That's not factual.

How many times have your heard a XXXX father say the she wanted his daughter to marry a good XXXX boy and have lots of XXXX babies.

That's racism.
 

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Papa I know you're smart. That's not factual.

How many times have your heard a XXXX father say the she wanted his daughter to marry a good XXXX boy and have lots of XXXX babies.

That's racism.
I agree with you 100%

Problem is if you belong to a minority you can scream racist anytime you want.
However if you are white you are expected to accept your exclusion as fact.

Here is another one to consider. It is acceptable to open a women only gym but try to open an men only one and see who yells.

Face it if you are white you are never discriminated against and if you are a white male you got no chance of complaining.
 

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http://www.redroom.com/blog/tim-wise/this-your-nation-white-privilege-updated

This is Your Nation on White Privilege (Updated)
by Tim Wise

September 13, 2008, 12:01 pm

By Tim Wise

For those who still can’t grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.

White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because “every family has challenges,” even as black and Latino families with similar “challenges” are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

White privilege is when you can call yourself a “fuckin’ redneck,” like Bristol Palin’s boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll “kick their fuckin' ass,” and talk about how you like to “shoot shit” for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.

White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.

White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don’t all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you’re “untested.”


White privilege is being able to say that you support the words “under God” in the pledge of allegiance because “if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it’s good enough for me,” and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the “under God” part wasn’t added until the 1950s--while if you're black and believe in reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), you're a dangerous and mushy liberal who isn't fit to safeguard American institutions.


White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.


White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto is “Alaska first,” and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she’s being disrespectful.


White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you’re being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college and the fact that she lives near Russia, you’re somehow being mean, or even sexist.


White privilege is being able to convince white women who don’t even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a “second look.”


White privilege is being able to fire people who didn’t support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.


White privilege is when you can take nearly twenty-four hours to get to a hospital after beginning to leak amniotic fluid, and still be viewed as a great mom whose commitment to her children is unquestionable, and whose "next door neighbor" qualities make her ready to be VP, while if you're a black candidate for president and you let your children be interviewed for a few seconds on TV, you're irresponsibly exploiting them.

White privilege is being able to give a 36-minute speech in which you talk about lipstick and make fun of your opponent, while laying out no substantive policy positions on any issue at all, and still manage to be considered a legitimate candidate, while a black person who gives an hour speech the week before, in which he lays out specific policy proposals on several issues, is still criticized for being too vague about what he would do if elected.

White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God’s punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you’re just a good church-going Christian, but if you’re black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you’re an extremist who probably hates America.


White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a “trick question,” while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O’Reilly means you’re dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.


White privilege is being able to go to a prestigious prep school, then to Yale and Harvard Business School (George W. Bush), and still be seen as an "average guy," while being black, going to a prestigious prep school, then Occidental College, then Columbia, and then Harvard Law, makes you "uppity" and a snob who probably looks down on regular folks.

White privilege is being able to graduate near the bottom of your college class (McCain), or graduate with a C average from Yale (W.), and that's OK, and you're still cut out to be president, but if you're black and you graduate near the top of your class from Harvard Law, you can't be trusted to make good decisions in office.

White privilege is being able to dump your first wife after she's disfigured in a car crash so you can take up with a multi-millionaire beauty queen (who you then go on to call the c-word in public) and still be thought of as a man of strong family values, while if you're black and married for nearly 20 years to the same woman, your family is viewed as un-American and your gestures of affection for each other are called "terrorist fist bumps."

White privilege is when you can develop a pain-killer addiction, having obtained your drug of choice illegally like Cindy McCain, go on to beat that addiction, and everyone praises you for being so strong, while being a black guy who smoked pot a few times in college and never became an addict means people will wonder if perhaps you still get high, and even ask whether or not you may have sold drugs at some point.

White privilege is being able to sing a song about bombing Iran and still be viewed as a sober and rational statesman, with the maturity to be president, while being black and suggesting that the U.S. should speak with other nations, even when we have disagreements with them, makes you dangerously naive and immature.

White privilege is being able to say that you hate "gooks" and "will always hate them," and yet, you aren't a racist because, ya know, you were a POW, so you're entitled to your hatred, while being black and noting that black anger about racism is understandable, given the history of your country, makes you a dangerous bigot.

White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism and an absent father is apparently among the "lesser adversities" faced by other politicians, as Sarah Palin explained in her convention speech.

And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren’t sure about that whole “change” thing. Ya know, it’s just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain…


White privilege is, in short, the problem.
 

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I've actually been told this, ironically enough at an "anti-racism training" session.

As far as I'm concerned it is completely illogical and utter malarkey!
It is called paying for what other people did in the past.

You are supposed to suck it up and open your wallet to make it all better.
 

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Fairchild cable TV's Cantonese only candidate debate in Markham and Richmond Hill.

If you're not Chinese you can't debate and you're not invited.

Is that what our country was built on? Discrimination?

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Hmm..didn't you notice they discriminate Mandarin speaking Chinese too? :rolleyes:

BTW, couldn't care less whether the candidate debate in Farsi, Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Hindi or Urdu only.
 

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BTW, couldn't care less whether the candidate debate in Farsi, Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Hindi or Urdu only.
If there there is more than one candidate, and there are candidates who do not speak Cantonese, and this is an election by ward rather than at large. Then yes, we probably should care and be upset.
 

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If I'm not mistaken Fairchild TV's audience is Cantonese speaking, so isn't it reasonable that they hold a debate in Cantonese? If a candidate who didn't speak Cantonese participated he/she wouldn't understand questions asked by the moderator, and their value at the debate would be pretty minimal.

Typically the TV network that is holding the debate decides who will participate. In the case of our federal elections this is decided based on representation in the House of Commons, standing in the polls, etc.
 
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If I'm not mistaken Fairchild TV's audience is Cantonese speaking, so isn't it reasonable that they hold a debate in Cantonese? If a candidate who didn't speak Cantonese participated they he/she wouldn't understand questions asked by the moderator, and their value at the debate would be pretty minimal.
This is only logical. Logic however has little use here!.....:rolleyes:
 

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It is called paying for what other people did in the past.

You are supposed to suck it up and open your wallet to make it all better.
people who don't have anglo-white sounding names are more likley to be descriminated stop denying racism
 

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If I'm not mistaken Fairchild TV's audience is Cantonese speaking, so isn't it reasonable that they hold a debate in Cantonese? If a candidate who didn't speak Cantonese participated he/she wouldn't understand questions asked by the moderator, and their value at the debate would be pretty minimal.
Candidates should be invited to participate anyway. Some of them might attend with a translator in tow. Ideally, the station would provide translation services for them.

There is nothing wrong with having a debate in Cantonese, but there is something wrong with excluding some of the candidates.
 

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LOL, Fairchild TV is co-owned by CCTVB. :rolleyes:

BTW, why would any Chinese watch a has-been network like this one in the first place??

Fairchild is owned by Hong Kong based TVB and fairchild group

and the chinese watch Farichild tv because they show good quality programs than the american wannabee canadian networks that import anglo-american filth(many which are filled with covert racism), report on hollywood filth etc
 

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Fairchild is owned by Hong Kong based TVB and fairchild group
As mentioned, CCTVB is one of the co-owners of this has-been network.

Having said that, CCTVB is marginally better than the alternative, the unofficial CCTV-13. :rolleyes:

and the chinese watch Farichild tv because they show good quality programs than the american wannabee canadian networks that import anglo-american filth(many which are filled with covert racism), report on hollywood filth etc
ROFLMAO, many of those who watch that network basically are aged Chinese who cannot speak any decent English and they are not savvy enough to watch the Chinese programs in real time on-line from their motherland.

BTW, those "anglo-american filth etc" that you mentioned, those mainland Chinese had already cloned/duplicated many of those, with local contents as substitute. Same "garbage" but spoken in Mandarin and/or one of those dialects, say Cantonese.

Funny to notice that the indifferent Caucasians are still in denial/delusional and refusing to sue those Chinese for plagiarism or failing to pay the royalties.
 

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I agree with you 100%

Problem is if you belong to a minority you can scream racist anytime you want.
However if you are white you are expected to accept your exclusion as fact.

Here is another one to consider. It is acceptable to open a women only gym but try to open an men only one and see who yells.

Face it if you are white you are never discriminated against and if you are a white male you got no chance of complaining.


Well I think to a degree we have a mutual love affair going here but my point is that there should be equal representation which this is not.

We have two official languages in Canada and at least one should be represented in a debate of this nature.

Those that don't know Cantonese don't know what the audience is being told.

I feel the debate should be canceled until someone understands what Canada is all about. Equality if humanly possible.
 

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I'd say let the Chinese do what they want. They are becoming the new middle class. Upstanding citizens. basically law-abiding and polite. There are far worse groups than them.
 

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Candidates should be invited to participate anyway. Some of them might attend with a translator in tow. Ideally, the station [SHOULD] provide translation services for them.

There is nothing wrong with having a debate in Cantonese, but there is something wrong with excluding some of the candidates.
Again, I must agree with Fuji.
 
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