Al (the Hypocrite) Gore buys ANOTHER house - 9 million bucks, 6 fireplaces, 9 bathroo

toguy5252

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You have obviously NOT seen the film... watch the film and then come back and comment, because that is ENTIRELY the message he is preaching. In fact, at the end of the film, in the most solemn voice he can muster, he says (in reference to how each and every one of us can help guard against global warming), "Learn everything you can about the climate crisis, then put your knowledge into action". I guess we know what his plan is...
I have seen the film a few times and I still dont get your point.
 

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The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions, issued a press release late Monday:

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.”


OK. We need to do carbon footprints of lots of people—but how do you measure it? House/houses size, cars, private jets—what else should we include. And how do you offset these with hybrid cars, solar heating, wind turbines, etc.?

We need an algorithm folks. Got one out there?

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/NussbaumOnDesign/archives/2007/02/gores_carbon_fo.html
 

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I'm pretty sure that Al's Carbon footprint exceeds mine but it doesnt matter. Mandkind's total presence is a wisp of smoke off a matchhead compared to nature's. Icelandic and Hawaiian volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes and tornados. We are no match for them and could never reproduce their effects. The progress of mankind did not melt the ice caps and deplete the ozone. The naturally declining ozone and progressive melting of the ice caps altered the climate that made way for mankinds proliferation and progress. Doesnt that make more sense?
 

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The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions, issued a press release late Monday:

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.”


OK. We need to do carbon footprints of lots of people—but how do you measure it? House/houses size, cars, private jets—what else should we include. And how do you offset these with hybrid cars, solar heating, wind turbines, etc.?

We need an algorithm folks. Got one out there?

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/NussbaumOnDesign/archives/2007/02/gores_carbon_fo.html
Their research may not be quite what it appears to be.

The group said that Gore used nearly 221,000 kilowatt hours last year and that his average monthly electric bill was $1,359. Johnson said his group got its figures from Nashville Electric Service.

"Utility records show the Gore family paid an average monthly electric bill of about $1,200 last year for its 10,000-square-foot home."

"But company spokeswoman Laurie Parker said the utility never got a request from the policy center and never gave it any information."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17382210/

"Kreider said Gore purchases enough energy from renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and methane gas to balance 100 percent of his electricity costs."
 

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I'm pretty sure that Al's Carbon footprint exceeds mine but it doesnt matter. Mandkind's total presence is a wisp of smoke off a matchhead compared to nature's. Icelandic and Hawaiian volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes and tornados. We are no match for them and could never reproduce their effects. The progress of mankind did not melt the ice caps and deplete the ozone. The naturally declining ozone and progressive melting of the ice caps altered the climate that made way for mankinds proliferation and progress. Doesnt that make more sense?
Well now be careful, the earth actually improved to the tune of ~150,000 tonnes per day of carbon omission as a result of Iceland latest eruption. Then there's the ash left that will benefit the farmers as fertilizer. Now the air stinks for a while, but things could be worse.
 

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Thanks for making my point for me H-guy!

Lemme ask you this... have you seen The Inconvenient Truth? He preaches for the better part of 2 fucking hours telling us to do exactly that! And the very last line of the film is:

"What Are you willing to do..." (or something to that effect...)
Yes I've seen the film but you have no idea what he has done to save his own carbon foot print. You're assumption is simply that unless he is is willing to live in poverty, he is not doing enough. I have a business associate that lives in a huge house in Caledon but he has cut down (not eliminated) his heat & air conditioning by using heat exchanges with pipes that circulate water underground. Now, should I be telling him that he should sell the mansion and move into a loft to save energy ? You honestly can't see that this is a witch hunt ?
 
Yes I've seen the film but you have no idea what he has done to save his own carbon foot print. You're assumption is simply that unless he is is willing to live in poverty, he is not doing enough. I have a business associate that lives in a huge house in Caledon but he has cut down (not eliminated) his heat & air conditioning by using heat exchanges with pipes that circulate water underground. Now, should I be telling him that he should sell the mansion and move into a loft to save energy ? You honestly can't see that this is a witch hunt ?
WHERE have I said he should live in poverty??? Go back and read post # 20... Then re-read post #36... and you'll have your answer as to why I say he's a hypocrite.

One does not have to live in poverty to have a smaller carbon foot print (whether THAT even makes a difference is an argument for another day...), but there's NO WAY NO HOW any justification that a guy living in a 9 million dollar mansion has the environments best interest at heart. Not to mention his other residences...

You honestly can't see why this isn't an issue??
 

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WHERE have I said he should live in poverty??? Go back and read post # 20... Then re-read post #36... and you'll have your answer as to why I say he's a hypocrite.

One does not have to live in poverty to have a smaller carbon foot print (whether THAT even makes a difference is an argument for another day...), but there's NO WAY NO HOW any justification that a guy living in a 9 million dollar mansion has the environments best interest at heart. Not to mention his other residences...

You honestly can't see why this isn't an issue??
What is the difference how he lives if his footprint is neutral Shouldn't that be everyone's goal? Shouldn't we be congratulating him for having being able to have a big house and neutral impact?
 

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I'm pretty sure that Al's Carbon footprint exceeds mine but it doesnt matter. Mandkind's total presence is a wisp of smoke off a matchhead compared to nature's. Icelandic and Hawaiian volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes and tornados. We are no match for them and could never reproduce their effects. The progress of mankind did not melt the ice caps and deplete the ozone. The naturally declining ozone and progressive melting of the ice caps altered the climate that made way for mankinds proliferation and progress. Doesnt that make more sense?
Actually, that makes no sense whatsover.

Volcano's produce a lot of crap that can change the temperature of the planet, but only for a year or so. What we've done is radically altered the balance of CO2 in the atmosphere thereby starting a very slow and long change in the temperature. The evidence very clear matches the theories, more CO2, more heat. And that has lead to melting glaciers and polar ice. Even the change in the ozone layer was a result of CFC's from humanity. Now that they've been reduced, the ozone layer is in not so grave danger. Nothing natural about that one, either. It was all us, baby.
 
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What is the difference how he lives if his footprint is neutral Shouldn't that be everyone's goal? Shouldn't we be congratulating him for having being able to have a big house and neutral impact?
No... Buying credits to bring you to nuetral is cheating... He's not being nuetral at all... he's paying (well himself actually!
) to be... That in and of itself is the problem with carbon credits. It DOESN'T reduce the carbon emissions at all... it just transfers the carbon usage around.... and allows people that have $$$ to pay for the privilege of "polluting". (We still haven't established that CO2 is actually polluting either BTW...)

Besides which... THAT WAS NOT THE MESSAGE OF HIS FILM. Oh just forget it... I've explained it 2-3 times already in this thread just re-read those posts and if, after all that you're still having problems, better brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
 

toguy5252

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No... Buying credits to bring you to nuetral is cheating... He not being nuetral at all... he's paying someone ELSE to be... That in and of itself is the problem with carbon credits. It DOESN'T reduce the carbon emissions at all... it just transfers the carbon usage around....

Besides which... THAT WAS NOT THE MESSAGE OF HIS FILM. Oh just forget it... I've explained it 2-3 times already in this thread just re-read those posts and if, after that you're still having problems, better brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
LOL. You say he is buying credits. He says he buying renewable energy. Big difference.

By the way I don't appear to be the only one here having trouble understanding the point you are making.
 

toguy5252

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He doesn't practice what he preaches... therefore- he's a hypocrite.

He's like those tele-evangelists that preach non-stop about the sins of fornication etc, and then gets busted with a pro themselves...
He preaches reducing one's footprint. He reduced his footprint even though he is in a big house. Where is the hypocrisy.
 

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Just as an add on the school I work at the entire science department refuses to use this movie in the classroom, the only department that does use it are a few of the hottie tottie environmental types in geography. That pretty much sums up how much credibility Gore should have spouting off his "facts"
 
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