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gryfin

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LOL. I must be dumb.

The Korea/Japan example while horrific was entirely different. it was an occupying army and had nothing to do with race.
Your response had what to do with this again? Specifically the racial aspect?
Some basic knowledge of world (and I mean world, although yours seems to be limited to things zionist) would afford you the awareness that the Japanese regarded other races (and especially other Asian subgroups) as inferior and regarded themselves as the natural masters of that part of the world. That sense of superiority provided them with a vast sense of entitlement that propelled the invasion and subjugation of neighboring countries.
 

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We're drifting off topic a bit...the man who is 65 and tried to cheat on his taxes is being disrespectful of the Holocaust by saying he did it because of that memory. Miami is not a place Jews are treated badly for being Jews, and as I am down here I can attest to this. A lame defence seeing as he was born in 1945, probably in the months after the war, and would have no memory of it. So he decided in his 50's, living in Miami, to not pay taxes when he had done so in the past, and stuff his money in Switzerland in case...what? there was another Holocaust in the U.S.? Pretty lame. More like he liked the idea of not paying millions of dollars away to the IRS from the sale of his company.

The other point is about does the Final Solution qualify as unique in the history of war and suffering? Well, in a way, yes. Forget whose side one is on for a minute...Pro-Jewish, indifferent WASP, Holocaust Denier, Neo-Nazi, etc. The facts are these: The SS was tasked with the elimination of the Jewish race by the German government because it was decided that most of the negative things observed in German society by the Nazis were thought, by them, to be of Jewish origins. So if Jews act in ways that are undesirable, and cannot be assimilated and eventually watered down by blood to the point of non-existance, then they should be encouraged to leave the country and live elsewhere. With the borders of Germany expanding, and with Europe-wide conquest a new goal, making them move to new countries in Europe was no longer practical, so the social policy thought best was to kill them all to get rid of them and the negative effect on the German folk they were thought to cause. So Jews were termed subhuman and rounded up and killed in camps away from public view so as not to upset the sensitivities of the general population.

I know of no other military/government campaign in the 20th century to use the funding, military, civil government of a major state at all levels to completely eliminate one race by killing them to a man. Not just enslaving and killing some of them, as has happened elsewhere with other peoples, sure. The Japanese wanted to enslave the Koreans, kill many, thought they were subhuman...used Korean girls as field whores for the Japanese military, but did not embark on a plan to kill every Korean to a man. So yes, it is unique. That doesn't mean Jews get to play the "holocaust card" whenever they want to break the law or abuse Palestinians or whatever and expect everyone else to look the other way. But it does give Jews a Holocaust history that is unique in the 20th century.

Now, one can be horror struck by the Holocaust, indifferent to it in a ho-hum way (which time will probably cause to happen eventually more and more as it does to all major historical events over the centuries), deny it happened for whatever reason, think Nazi eugenics were great and the only bad thing was Hitler didn't finish the job before he lost the war, or whatever one wants to think. Regardless of one's beliefs, or dislike of Israel (if one dislikes Israel) one should give them the credit that the Holocaust was unique in the anals of 20th century social engineering policies, of which there were many out-there schemes.
 

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Why don't we go back to the topic of the thread. Do you excuse the guy, because his parents was in
an extermination camp during the holocaust?
If you read my first post on this thread you will see that clearly I do not.
 

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You were just a neutral passing on an interesting artcile and you just decided to add the carping comment. Of course the artcile without your comment would not have made any sense at all.
Just trying to clarify if better for you.
You seemed befuddled...:cool:
 

toguy5252

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hey ToGuy...i'm not here to say that all Jews are bad in any way...just want to be clear...however the point of my rant is there are many instances of occupying gov'ts doing horrfying things to their victims..and i just thought this man using something like this as a defence is dispicable...and also any nation's actions should be open to criticism , without using something such as horrible as the Holocaust or the term"anti-semetic" as a simple defensive criticism of their opponents
I thought I made it clear in my very first post that I have no sympathy for the guy. i find his attempt to invoke the holocaust pathetic and despicable. Yes there are despicable Jews.

My comments were directed at the originator of the thread who I regard as an anti-Semite. His comments in the context of the article were entirely gratuitous.
 

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My comments were directed at the originator of the thread who I regard as an anti-Semite. His comments in the context of the article were entirely gratuitous.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Typical gratuitous apologist gibberish intended to paint anyone anti-Semite who makes any critique of Israel as a means to mute them. This form of kosher BS has gone on for years.....:rolleyes:

Their SOP: automatically call anyone anti-Semite who points stupid things they do.
 

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You can try to dig your way out if you like but your antisemitism is plain and clear for all to see.
Only to those OxyContinized as you....:p
LMAO!!!!
Believe OxyContin only increases your carping index....
 

toguy5252

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Typical gratuitous apologist gibberish intended to paint anyone anti-Semite who makes any critique of Israel as a means to mute them. This form of kosher BS has gone on for years.....:rolleyes:

Their SOP: automatically call anyone anti-Semite who points stupid things they do.
Why don't you read your own post. It had nothing to do with criticizing Israel. You are just digging in deeper. What does your carping comment have to do with Israel. it had to do with Jews.

Why make excuses. Are you ashamed to be an anti-semite?
 

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You are just digging in deeper. What does your carping comment have to do with Israel. it had to do with Jews.
WTF!!!
You CAN'T even READ!!!
Jack Barouh was doing the carping with his silly Holocaust "survival behavior" defense.
The rest you got from your OxyContin high in a typical vain attempt to turn it into an antisemitism issue that YOU concocted, in knee-jerk fashion!....:rolleyes:
 

toguy5252

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WTF!!!
You CAN'T even READ!!!
Jack Barouh was doing the carping with his silly Holocaust "survival behavior" defense.
The rest you got from your OxyContin high in a typical vain attempt to turn it into an antisemitism issue that YOU concocted, in knee-jerk fashion!....:rolleyes:
Nice try. Jack Barouh didn't write the preamble to the article you reproduced. The readers of this thread and board will form their own opinion about you. Mine is quite clear.
 

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toguy5252

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Mine is pretty clear also.
You are nothing more than the Jewish version/answer to gryfin....:rolleyes:
LOL. Wow good comeback.. That is sure convince everyone here that you are not an ant-Semite.

And by the way you may wish to get your eyes checked. You are constantly rolling them.
 

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It's more than "small minded" ...

The small mindedness of some people never ceases to amaze me.

Is there some other example in modern history where an army has sought to murder an entire race based only ion religion. Are you really suggesting that not just the Jews but the world should forget this event.

"On Holocaust Remembrance Day, US president issues statement saying memories of victims serve 'as a constant reminder to honor their legacy by renewing our commitment to prevent genocide'

Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 04.11.10, 22:51 / Israel News

In a special statement issued on the occasion of Holocaust Remembrance Day, US President Barack Obama, "This year, on the 65th anniversary of the liberation of the Nazi concentration camps, we must recommit ourselves to honoring the memories of all the victims and ensuring that they remain a part of our collective memory.


"On my visit to Buchenwald last year – and during my visit to Yad Vashem in 2008 – I bore witness to the horrors of anti-Semitism and the capacity for evil represented by the Nazis’ campaign to annihilate the Jewish people and so many others. But even at places like Buchenwald, the dignity and courage of those who endured the horrors of the Holocaust remind us of humanity’s capacity for decency and compassion," read the statement, published Sunday.

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'Iran threatens, world remains silent' / Ynet
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The American leader said the memories of the victims "serve as a constant reminder to honor their legacy by renewing our commitment to prevent genocide, and to confront anti-Semitism and prejudice in all of its forms.


"We must never tolerate the hateful stereotypes and prejudice against the Jewish people that tragically continues to this day. We must work, instead, on behalf of a world of justice and peace, in which all nations and peoples value the humanity that we share, and the dignity inherent in every human being," he said."
to use it as a justification for criminal tax evasion - especially using Swiss bankers - well documented NAZI collaberators before, during and even after WWII. A lot like the patricide/matricide seeking pity for being an orphan!:rolleyes:
 

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On the original topic, I had a discussion today about people's excuses to get them out of trouble. This guy's excuse is distasteful. That doesn't take anything away from the Holocaust or any of the other genocide's in history. Everyone should be significant, not an excuse for bigots to continue their diatribes.
 
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