Is this a thinly veiled suicide note? Put an apple in your mouth before you do it.
Palestinian Bedouins are protesting against discrimination by the Israeli government
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Is this a thinly veiled suicide note? Put an apple in your mouth before you do it.
I figured a man with a nice Irish name might enjoys some decent food.
Where are my manners? I am thinking of smoking a few racks of ribs and pork loin next weekend
Stop over and we can raise a pint or two of Guinness and discuss your views.
Er.. how about making a few unilateral humanitarian gestures and not slaughtering people? How about not conducting ruious and murderous acts like they did on Lebenon a few years ago. Israel did a lot to justify a huge amount of hatred there.You may also ask what the Arabs and Palestinians have done to diffuse that hatred or ask how much of the aid Hamas get is used for military means but that wouldn't fit your agenda.
I also don't get how the European comparison fits your line of argument.
What do you think Israel could realistically do to eliminate that hatred? The only thing it seems that many Arabs and Palestinians would accept is the disappearance of all Jews from the middle east.
You really need to get news from some other source than gryf. That hatred was there well before the WWII and well before Jews in the area had any weapons. A quick look at history would show you that Arabs violence against Jews goes back to at least 1920 and it is hard to act compasionately to people set on the end of your country. It is tough for both sides to act in humanitarian ways when engaged in what is essentially still a war. I would think that you would have the mental capacity to realize that peace in the region would require both sides to treat each other better, not just by forcing Israel to give in.
If it didn't require a trip to buffalo, I'd be in.I figured a man with a nice Irish name might enjoys some decent food.
Where are my manners? I am thinking of smoking a few racks of ribs and pork loin next weekend
Stop over and we can raise a pint or two of Guinness and discuss your views.
Er.. yeah there was never any Jewish violence against Arabs was there? Dude read the bible.. the violence goes back to BC..You really need to get news from some other source than gryf. That hatred was there well before the WWII and well before Jews in the area had any weapons. A quick look at history would show you that Arabs violence against Jews goes back to at least 1920 and it is hard to act compasionately to people set on the end of your country. It is tough for both sides to act in humanitarian ways when engaged in what is essentially still a war. I would think that you would have the mental capacity to realize that peace in the region would require both sides to treat each other better, not just by forcing Israel to give in.
I'm aware that those were instigated by Israel's neighbours.I guess you have not heard of the 6 Day War. Or the Occupation. Or the Invasion of Lebanon. Or the ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. Or Cast Lead.
Wow, what a jump. Does that mean you can't any instances of Jewish violence against Arabs between the biblical era and the 20th century?Er.. yeah there was never any Jewish violence against Arabs was there? Dude read the bible.. the violence goes back to BC..
But if you you undrestood history, Arabs weren't in Palestine until the Arab conquests, about 700 AD but to know things like that, you might be required to actually read something more historical than youtube.
Only an idiot would deduce that I meant that. When arabs arrive in Palestine depends on who you believe. I have read they were there BC.Wow, what a jump. Does that mean you can't any instances of Jewish violence against Arabs between the biblical era and the 20th century?
But if you you undrestood history, Arabs weren't in Palestine until the Arab conquests, about 700 AD but to know things like that, you might be required to actually read something more historical than youtube.
Why don't you reproduce the article that says they were there BC?Only an idiot would deduce that I meant that. When arabs arrive in Palestine depends on who you believe. I have read they were there BC.
It depends on how you define "Arab". The culture wasn't there. The people who are now called "Palestinian Arabs" are the descendants of Jews who coverted to Islam and became "arabized". By blood line they are Jewish, not Arab. In cultural terms they are Arab.Only an idiot would deduce that I meant that. When arabs arrive in Palestine depends on who you believe. I have read they were there BC.
This tends to be an uncomfortable fact for both sides.
Or some example of Jewish violence against Arabs pre-1930's.Why don't you reproduce the article that says they were there BC?
You mean something like this:Why don't you reproduce the article that says they were there BC?
"The first written attestation of the ethnonym "Arab" occurs in an Assyrian inscription of 853 BCE, where Shalmaneser III lists a King Gindibu of mâtu arbâi (Arab land) as among the people he defeated at the Battle of Karkar. Some of the names given in these texts are Aramaic, while others are the first attestations of Proto-Arabic dialects. In fact several different ethnonyms are found in Assyrian texts that are conventionally translated "Arab": Arabi, Arubu, Aribi and Urbi. Many of the Qedarite queens were also described as queens of the aribi. The Hebrew Bible occasionally refers to Arvi peoples (or variants thereof), translated as "Arab" or "Arabian." The scope of the term at that early stage is unclear, but it seems to have referred to various desert-dwelling Semitic tribes in the Syrian Desert and Arabia."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_people
Exactly. Your friend was suggesting that Arabs were in Israel BC. Your source dates them the Arabian Peninsula, not Israel.You mean something like this:
"The first written attestation of the ethnonym "Arab" occurs in an Assyrian inscription of 853 BCE, where Shalmaneser III lists a King Gindibu of mâtu arbâi (Arab land) as among the people he defeated at the Battle of Karkar. Some of the names given in these texts are Aramaic, while others are the first attestations of Proto-Arabic dialects. In fact several different ethnonyms are found in Assyrian texts that are conventionally translated "Arab": Arabi, Arubu, Aribi and Urbi. Many of the Qedarite queens were also described as queens of the aribi. The Hebrew Bible occasionally refers to Arvi peoples (or variants thereof), translated as "Arab" or "Arabian." The scope of the term at that early stage is unclear, but it seems to have referred to various desert-dwelling Semitic tribes in the Syrian Desert and Arabia."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_people
And here's the battle between Arabs and Jews a long, long way back. BC.Or some example of Jewish violence against Arabs pre-1930's.
The Battle of Qarqar (or Ḳarḳar) was fought in 853 BC when the army of Assyria, led by king Shalmaneser III, encountered an allied army of 12 kings at Qarqar led by Hadadezer (also called Adad-idr and possibly to be identified with Benhadad II[1]) of Damascus and King Ahab of Israel. This battle is notable for having a larger number of combatants than any previous battle, and for being the first instance some peoples enter recorded history (such as the Arabs). It is recorded on The Kurkh Monolith. The ancient town of Qarqar at which the battle took place has generally been identified with the modern archaeological site of Tell Qarqur.
According to an inscription later erected by Shalmaneser, he had started his annual campaign, leaving Nineveh on the 14th day of Aiaru. He crossed both the Tigris and Euphrates without incident, receiving the submission and tribute of several cities along the way, including that of Aleppo. Once past Aleppo, he encountered his first resistance from troops of Iruleni, king of Hamath, whom he defeated; in retribution, he plundered both the palaces and the cities of Iruleni's kingdom. Continuing his march after having sacked Qarqar, he encountered the allied forces near the Orontes River.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karkar
It pays read to read books and not just watch YouTube. (I corrected your text - "you said "read something more historical than youtube" - I hope no one has to explain your error to you)
If you claim it's a fact, you must have an authoritative source. What is it?The people who are now called "Palestinian Arabs" are the descendants of Jews who coverted to Islam and became "arabized".
This tends to be an uncomfortable fact for both sides.
No, he said violence between Jews and Arabs. Read closely my half wit zionist. Your fellow stenographer for Israel should take note of that as well.Exactly. Your friend was suggesting that Arabs were in Israel BC. Your source dates them the Arabian Peninsula, not Israel.
Your right. I am only a half wit Zionist but i can follow the posts to which i am responding. You may wish to try.No, he said violence between Jews and Arabs. Read closely my half wit zionist. Your fellow stenographer for Israel should take note of that as well.
ROTFLMAO. Gryf, you should show that sense of humor more often.Is this a thinly veiled suicide note? Put an apple in your mouth before you do it.
Fuji, how do you define an "Arab"?? For that matter what is the definition of a "Jew"? Is a "Jew" someone who converts to Judaism?It depends on how you define "Arab". The culture wasn't there. The people who are now called "Palestinian Arabs" are the descendants of Jews who coverted to Islam and became "arabized". By blood line they are Jewish, not Arab. In cultural terms they are Arab.
This tends to be an uncomfortable fact for both sides.
