Palestinian Bedouins are protesting against discrimination by the Israeli government
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LMAO.. stop playing danmandYeah right, clearly this piece is anti-semitic because the author has written earlier articles for publications like the Guardian's 'Comment is free', New Statesman, Electronic Intifada, Middle East International, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, and others. Therefore it is rooted in hate, delegitimacy, exaggeration and mistruths and is null and void. The events described never happened.
Remember:
1. Israel has created a paradise out of the desert.
2. Israelis deplore the loss of all life.
3. Israel has tried for 60 years to create a homeland for the Palestinians
4. Israel has continuously been trying to improve the financial and economic situation in the west Bank
toguy5252, I think that I am very objective in the Israel/Palestine debate. In your post above I highlighted the piece that I believe shows your true colors, and that of many supporters of Israeli policy. You really seem to believe that much of the shortcomings and flaws of that society is caused by an outside influence.Not really necessary that I write a book. there are already many of them setting out more eloquently than I could the miracle which is Israel. the creation out of the desert of a democratic state with a bustling economy, thriving cultural and business institutions amidst a sea of adversity, surrounded by hostile states intent in its destruction, having fought 2 wars and terrorist attacks too numerous to count. it has many flaws, shortcomings and warts, many of which are created from the necessity to survive but notwithstanding all of its flaws, shortcommings and warts an incredible country nonetheless. Go to Amazon, no shortage of books.
If Israel deplores the loss of life, why then do they spend more money per person then ANY nation on the face of the earth on arming and training their national killing machine? Seems at odds with say the Swiss or Swedes which are well armed neutral countries no?
I'm guessing you can figure out why.If Israel deplores the loss of life, why then do they spend more money per person then ANY nation on the face of the earth on arming and training their national killing machine? Seems at odds with say the Swiss or Swedes which are well armed neutral countries no?
By the way, how many of Switzerland's neighbours have declared that its annihilation is part of their national policy?
A sane or well read person would think it might have something to do with the feelings of Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabi, Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, Muslim Brotherhood, (as well as many in Jordan, Egypt, Turkey) about their Jewish neighbours.If Israel deplores the loss of life, why then do they spend more money per person then ANY nation on the face of the earth on arming and training their national killing machine? Seems at odds with say the Swiss or Swedes which are well armed neutral countries no?
(I can't remember the last time that all of Switzerland's or Sweden's neighbours vowed to destroy them)
No, only a zionist or one only exposed to zionist propaganda would have that outlook.A sane or well read person would think it might have something to do with the feelings of Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabi, Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, Muslim Brotherhood, (as well as many in Jordan, Egypt, Turkey) about their Jewish neighbours.
(I can't remember the last time that all of Switzerland's or Sweden's neighbours vowed to destroy them)
You yourself don't even believe that, you just like the way it sounds to your hate-filled ears.No, only a zionist or one only exposed to zionist propaganda would have that outlook.
Are we to believe that Israel is not really surrounded by Arab nations hell bent on its destruction?
Regrettably the Zionists in Israel are exposed to the hate espoused by its neighbors on a daily basis in addition to the rockets and the terrorist attacks. fortunately for its inhabitants their leaders takes whatever steps are necessary to protect their people. Unlike the Palestinian leaders who take steps which are guaranteed to provoke reprisals and thereby increase the despair of their people rather than protecting them.No, only a zionist or one only exposed to zionist propaganda would have that outlook.
And what has Israel done to diffuse that hatred? In face it has done so much to fan the flames of hatred and perpetuate the current situation. Take a little read on European history I think you will find it is far more blood soaked then Middle east history.I'm guessing you can figure out why.
By the way, how many of Switzerland's neighbours have declared that its annihilation is part of their national policy?
We can discuss that, but first acknowledge that it's the reason why Israel is required to arm itself for defense.And what has Israel done to diffuse that hatred?
Israel's armaments are there to hold on to what was stolen, beat down the people they stole it from, intimidate them into leaving, and take even more land and property from them.We can discuss that, but first acknowledge that it's the reason why Israel is required to arm itself for defense.
By which you mean the entire country of Israel. You've proven my point, thank you.Israel's armaments are there to hold on to what was stolen, beat down the people they stole it from, intimidate them into leaving, and take even more land and property from them.
May I return the favor as well. Inadvertently you've admitted you share my assessment.By which you mean the entire country of Israel. You've proven my point, thank you.
I share your assessment in the sense that I recognize that Israel's neighbours consider the existence of the entire country a theft of their land, and that it is that belief of theirs that results in Israel having to be so heavily armed.May I return the favor as well. Inadvertently you've admitted you share my assessment.
I did not refer to any of Israel's neighbors. I spoke of Isreal only. And that's what you said proved your point. Your subsequent backpeddling was delightful to witness.I share your assessment in the sense that I recognize that Israel's neighbours consider the existence of the entire country a theft of their land, and that it is that belief of theirs that results in Israel having to be so heavily armed.
You're a nut. Israel has armed itself so as to defend itself from its neighbours, most of whom hate that Israel exists.I did not refer to any of Israel's neighbors. I spoke of Isreal only. And that's what you said proved your point. Your subsequent backpeddling was delightful to witness.
Note that it was those other nations that repeatedly launched wars against Israel, Israel has never been the military aggressor.
I guess you have not heard of the 6 Day War. Or the Occupation. Or the Invasion of Lebanon. Or the ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. Or Cast Lead.You're a nut. Israel has armed itself so as to defend itself from its neighbours, most of whom hate that Israel exists.
Note that it was those other nations that repeatedly launched wars against Israel, Israel has never been the military aggressor.
thinking about roasting a pig today. Yo can camoe over and we can discuss you position.I guess you have not heard of the 6 Day War. Or the Occupation. Or the Invasion of Lebanon. Or the ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. Or Cast Lead.
If swine is not your cup of tea there is alway shell fish.
You may also ask what the Arabs and Palestinians have done to diffuse that hatred or ask how much of the aid Hamas get is used for military means but that wouldn't fit your agenda.And what has Israel done to diffuse that hatred? In face it has done so much to fan the flames of hatred and perpetuate the current situation. Take a little read on European history I think you will find it is far more blood soaked then Middle east history.
I also don't get how the European comparison fits your line of argument.
What do you think Israel could realistically do to eliminate that hatred? The only thing it seems that many Arabs and Palestinians would accept is the disappearance of all Jews from the middle east.
