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Rockslinger

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Hey guys, I will reward any TERBIE with 10 free posts on TERB who predicts the opening day Jays starting lineup 10 days in advance of April 5th. Hee, hee, hee.
 

Kilgore Trout

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J.P. Riciardi in an interview says you need a high payroll to make playoffs in AL East:

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“I’m not saying you have to have money to be successful,” Ricciardi said, “but if you don’t have money you’d better be willing to go seven or eight years of bad baseball before you start seeing the fruits of those No. 1 picks getting up to the majors. I’d go into another job with my eyes a lot more open and probably do a little more homework on who the ownership group is and what their expectations were because that’s what ultimately controls everything.”

http://www.telegram.com/article/20100312/COLUMN08/3120600
 

mandrill

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J.P. Riciardi in an interview says you need a high payroll to make playoffs in AL East:

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“I’m not saying you have to have money to be successful,” Ricciardi said, “but if you don’t have money you’d better be willing to go seven or eight years of bad baseball before you start seeing the fruits of those No. 1 picks getting up to the majors. I’d go into another job with my eyes a lot more open and probably do a little more homework on who the ownership group is and what their expectations were because that’s what ultimately controls everything.”
C'mon, JP. You mean you didn't know what you were getting into when you took the TO job? All that stuff you said about "building" when you got hired? And now, you're telling us you're confused because you thought the BJ's were a northern version of the Yankees and they disappointed you?

What a bullshitter!
 

Rockslinger

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Vernon Wells, even in his best years, never had HOF numbers yet JP signed him to a HOF contract. The contract should be in the HOF as a warning for stupid GM's.
 

jwmorrice

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In the laboratory.
Vernon Wells, even in his best years, never had HOF numbers yet JP signed him to a HOF contract. The contract should be in the HOF as a warning for stupid GM's.
Calm down! You haven't even seen his first flailing-at-a-slider strike-out of the season and already you're getting excited. At this rate, he's gonna give you a stroke.

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Rockslinger

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Calm down! You haven't even seen his first flailing-at-a-slider strike-out of the season and already you're getting excited. At this rate, he's gonna give you a stroke.
Ok, ok! I'm just trying to manage my expectations. Hee, hee, hee.
 

The Oracle

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Vernon Wells, even in his best years, never had HOF numbers yet JP signed him to a HOF contract. The contract should be in the HOF as a warning for stupid GM's.
Lest we forget.

At age 27 in 2006 Wells hit .303 with 32 hrs and 106 rbi's

That combined with stellar defence made him one if the top centre fielders in the game.

There was no reason too believe that his production was going too drop off severely.

He was just entering his prime.

The thinking was that he was going to continue too improve and if he could have put up those numbers for the rest of his contract then everybody would have been happy.

The big problem with his contract is that it is back loaded and thus making him impossible too move.

At one time Wells was looking like he had HOF potential or close too it.
 

K Douglas

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Utter crap.
Why is that utter crap? I have them winning 65 games. Now we now may lose Jason Frasor to the Twins who are seeking a closer. That leaves us with either Scott Downs or Kevin Gregg to close our games. That's pitiful.
 

Rockslinger

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At age 27 in 2006 Wells hit .303 with 32 hrs and 106 rbi's
Could have been steroid aided. One good (but not great) year does not a career make. For a Ken Griffey Junior, this would be just an average year.

Yes, Wells contract is back end loaded. Maybe he will do the honourable thing and retire while he still has a bit of dignity left.
 

mandrill

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Could have been steroid aided. One good (but not great) year does not a career make. For a Ken Griffey Junior, this would be just an average year.

Yes, Wells contract is back end loaded. Maybe he will do the honourable thing and retire while he still has a bit of dignity left.
I agree with the O. VW looked like a solid signing a few years ago. Dunno whether he just didn't come back from injuries or whether he misses Delgado's protection too much to adapt, but no one could have predicted the drop off.

Rios OTOH was always a bad signing.
 

Kilgore Trout

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MLB executives discussed re aligning baseball's divisional structure this past week.

Discussions involved moving either Boston or NY Yankees to the American League Central to give small market teams Baltimore, Toronto, Tampa Bay a competitive chance of making the playoffs every year.
Being stuck behind these 2 behemoths is causing attendance to sink like a stone in those 3 markets.
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From NY Post article:

"But the biggest impediment to this proposal should be common sense. This is proposing killing a mosquito with a Howitzer. Let’s return to the original premise, which is that — at worst — the sport has a Yankees-Red Sox problem. How do we know that? Consider that the Phillies are the Vegas favorites to win the pennant again (I actually like the Rockies if anyone cares). If Philadelphia does win, it would mark a third straight NL title. Yet no one is talking about the NL having a lack of competitive balance.

So why disrupt five divisions? If there is a Yankees-Red Sox problem, then let’s address that. I would implement all three of the following ideas, but any one by itself would help
1. Put the Yankees or Red Sox in the AL Central

I know it sounds like blasphemy to break up the Rivalry. But the Rivalry is a bit of a sham. It has not been red-hot every year for nine decades. In the late-1990s, the Yankees’ biggest rival was the Orioles. There was a time when the Mets’ main rivals were the Cubs or Cardinals, and the world did not end when both were shifted out of the NL East. Eventually the Mets built rivalries with the Braves and Phillies. Rivalries will bloom from current competition even more than history.

The reality is: If the Yankees and Red Sox are away from each other, their chances of making the playoffs both probably rise (because both could finish first in a division), but what also rises is the chances of the teams that finish second in those divisions also making the playoffs. Right now the Rays might be the third-best team in the majors, finish third in the AL East and not make the playoffs. If teams in the AL East only had to beat out the Yankees OR the Red Sox — not both — there would be greater hope within the division.

2. Eliminate the unbalanced schedule

Eighteen games against each division opponent are too much. Yes, clubs such as Baltimore and Toronto love all those home dates against Boston and New York for attendance reasons. But the chances to compete diminish when 22 percent of your schedule (36 games) is exclusively against the Yankees and Red Sox. There is no reason why the number cannot be dropped to 12-14 games.



3. Add an additional wild card team

Of all the ideas, this one seems to have the most traction, with one AL executive saying he has heard no objections to the concept recently and pegging it at “no less than an 80 percent chance” that it will be incorporated by 2012.

If you read this space (thanks), you know I have championed this idea for nearly a decade: Have the two wild-card winners in each league play a best-of-three over three consecutive days beginning the day after the regular season concludes. The fringe benefits include that you would intensify division races because the winners get a few days off after the season to rest and line up their pitching. You would never again see a team that has clinched the wild card but still could win the division not play all out to win the division.

In addition, you also honor the team with the best record in each league by having it play the wild-card series winner, meaning a well-rested team would get to use its No. 1 starter against a team with no rest that might have to use its No. 4 starter in a series opener.

In five of the last seven years, the Yankees and Red Sox have made up 50 percent of the AL’s four playoff teams. So let’s at least drop that to 40 percent by adding an extra wild card. Would there be some scheduling issues? Yes. But the commissioner already is committed to removing so many extraneous off-days in the postseason plus the season could start a few days earlier and the schedule could include two or three day-night doubleheaders and, voila, you have created necessary days for a wild-card series.

An extra wild card — like splitting up the Yankees and Red Sox or undoing the unbalanced schedule — would mean more teams in contention in July and August. Which not only would elevate hope but eliminate a lot of those salary-dumping trades that also generally favor teams such as the Yankees and Red Sox, and give the illusion of competitive imbalance."

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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/separating_rivals_better_for_mlb_r7etSxSU8Bn82vKW70AwEN/1
 

Rockslinger

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Discussions involved moving either Boston or NY Yankees to the American League Central to give small market teams Baltimore, Toronto, Tampa Bay a competitive chance of making the playoffs every year.
This is too logical and will never happen. Never underestimate the stupidity of baseball owners.
 

The Oracle

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Could have been steroid aided. One good (but not great) year does not a career make. For a Ken Griffey Junior, this would be just an average year.

Yes, Wells contract is back end loaded. Maybe he will do the honourable thing and retire while he still has a bit of dignity left.
Rocky he actually had more than one good year.

In 2003 at the age of 24 he hit .317 33hrs and 117rbi's
In 2005 at the age of 26 he hit .269 28hrs and 97rbi's

And while he was never close to Ken Griffey Jr. really how many in the history of the game were.

Off the top of my head Willie Mays and Joe DiMaggio are all that I can think of.

So to expect Griffey numbers is unreallistic I do believe.

But it was looking at one time that he could come close to Dale Murphy like stats.

Which would not put him in the hall but would get him on the ballot.

Which would have justified the contract.
 

Kilgore Trout

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mandrill

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As Carlos Degrado winds down his career, will he be HOF worthy or will he be just another Dale Murphy (close but no cigar)?
No major championships. Probably fatal to his HoF bid.
 
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