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Rockslinger

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I've known more than one photorgrapher who has washed their cards with their pants and after they were dry they downloaded the images.
My lord, why would they do such a thing. Some kind of secret photographer ritual?

I heard that after the tsunami (check spelling) in Asia a few years ago, they found a camera that was badly smashed and soaking wet and took out the memory card and successfully downloaded the images. BTW: I don't trust harddrives because eventually they all die.
 

Medman52

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My lord, why would they do such a thing. Some kind of secret photographer ritual?

BTW: I don't trust harddrives because eventually they all die.
LOL, just mistakes. I've formatted cards mistakingly, dropped them in snow, lost them but never washed them. They are very tough little devices
BTW...even when a card has been "formatted" as long as you DO NOT shoot an image over top the images can usually be recovered.

Yes, all hardrives will eventually fail.
 

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D3...one of the BEST Nikons I've ever owned..and I've owned Fm, Fe, F2, F2A, F3, F5, F90X, F100, D1X, D2X,D2H, D70, D200, and D3 (Especially LOVE the 2 card slots as extra insurance, and one of the sweetest shutter release sounds ever in a camera) but...it's HEAVY especially with a 70-200 and Sb900.
Yes, I really like those 2 card slots on the D3 as well. D3 is my favourite digital camera.

The downside is it is heavy. I alot of my nudes I shoot with a Nikon D90 so long as they are indoors with good lighting and there is no banging around of the camera. It is lighter and has given me good results. For digital work a D3 with a D90 as a backup body is a nice pairing. If one is gentle on the equipment a D90 is nice as an all in one.
 

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Unless I plan to " go commercial" with my photos I travel with a Canon G10..it shoots "raw" fits in my pocket and produces excellent files.
I have the Canon S90 P&S as a take everywhere pocket camera. I only have cause for complaint if I take the same image with a D3 at the same time. If I only have the S90 with me, I am happy with it lol. One can't drag a D3 around everywhere for grab shots, but one can drag a P&S around in a pocket 'just in case'.
 

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Excellent choice..especially able to shoot "RAW"
At lot of people forget about point and shoots for back ups and their also good to pull out when pulling pro cameras gets attention from everyone. They get all nervous and even some put their hands out for cash.
 

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I've been following this thread for a while and there has been some good discussion between film vs digital.

After being involved somewhat in the "business" for many years I've come to 2 main differences.

Digital Photography has eliminated any kind of leeway when dealing with DEADLINES! With film photography you would be given a few days (NOT news photographers, who would need to shoot, soup the film and print nearly instantly) to drop off colour film, pick it up, edit, if not transparency film get prints made and so on. With digital that has all but disappeared, many clients expect you to shoot the job and download to laptop there and then and burn images to Memory Stick or DVD instantly.
I miss film for that.

Digital photography with Photoshop and other software has introduced an incredible amount of MANIPULATION of the photo previously unheard of with film. I for one like the control. It means nicer photos (retouching skin flaws etc) for people paying big bucks for photos

For both Film and Digital photography I have always been a firm believer that the shutter should never be pressed unless you are content with the image.
The film image should NEVER be "fixed' in the darkroom it should be "finished" in the darkroom.
The digtail image should NEVER be "fixed' in the computer it should be "finished" in the computer.
 

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Ok, what is "RAW" and why do you like it?
With a JPEG the camera makes the descisions for you. Compression, sharpening etc. It uses Lossy compression, it "throws away some information" and you don't have as much "processing" choices in "Camera Raw" software.

Raw..there is NO compression and the camera does NOTHING to the image...you are free to "process" it AFTER capturing it.

Also ( and this will be debated into the 25th century) a RAW image has MUCH more information. Each one of my D3 RAW files is 60.9 MB..thats a lot of info
 

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At lot of people forget about point and shoots for back ups and their also good to pull out when pulling pro cameras gets attention from everyone. They get all nervous and even some put their hands out for cash.
Also an excellent point.
 

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I bet a GOOD photog with a simple "point and shoot" could out shoot a BAD photog with 2 D3's and 6 lenses. Easily!
Exactly. In the past, weren't there contests to see who could come up with the best photo using the simplest camera? The photos were based on the content, composition and lastly the technical merit. And, there was no darkroom 'doctoring' allowed (if I recall correctly).
 

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Ok, what is "RAW" and why do you like it?
RAW is what your are photographing without software improvements/modifications made in camera.

When you shoot in .jpeg format the camera processes what you are shooting, for instance if you are in "portrait" mode it might smooth out skin tones, etc. If you are in "beach" mode it might add blue colour to the ocean. RAW doesn't do these things, alowing you to develop the image in software such as Photoshop, or Nikon propritary software like NX2. You can do more with the image in RAW, but of course have to spend more time doing it. Many times Jpegs look nice right out of the camera. Soem photo software might not be able to open RAW images, as every camera maker has a different file extension. Nikon uses .NEF Yo can't say go to a photo kiosk at Black's to print pics from your memory card if you shot them in RAW unless you develop them first.

Film cameras are just boxes that expose light onto film. The camera doesn't process it. Film comes in many types - Fuji Reala is nice for general purpose and people shots, Kodak Porta 160NC and 400NC are nice for weddings as they are designed to make skin look nice when one person has on black (tux) and the other white (wedding dress). Fuji Velvia is nice for wild landscape colours (it is a slide film).

In digital the effects we used to select one film over another for are now done in post processing by adjusting colour intensity, etc. Tiffen filters and other software companies even have apps to let you replicate the look of certain film in your RAW images, so you can select to make your image "look" like it was taken with Velvia or Kodakchrome, or even Kodak Gold 100.
 

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For both Film and Digital photography I have always been a firm believer that the shutter should never be pressed unless you are content with the image.
The film image should NEVER be "fixed' in the darkroom it should be "finished" in the darkroom.
The digtail image should NEVER be "fixed' in the computer it should be "finished" in the computer.
True words. This implies a discipline that we should all aspire to when preserving an image for posterity. Once we learn the basics of photography, it becomes easier to do for every shot.
 
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