What Can Israel Teach the U.S. About Airport Security?
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It's called money. I'll bet Israel has a mere 1% of the air traffic that the USA does. A lot easier to put an air marshal on 100 flights a day than it is for 100,000.
Also, wasn't there an air marshal or navy seal or some kind of specialized security guy on one of the 9-11 flights? And he was the first guy to be killed...
I dont think being a Christian is enslavement. If it means I am bound by certain moral and ethical principles, then so be it.
Im not anti muslim, but I hate Islam. As a Christian they are a threat to my existence, beliefs, and my way of life.
I often feel minimized by the Muslim presence in this world and the small group of very vocal liberal people who protect muslim terrorism.
I do believe their were some Jew behind the aparthied. The same group of Jews who are also behing ending the occupation in Israel. They certainly dont speak for the majority.
Although when you think about it, Aparthied has not improved the Africans way of life, if anything they are suffering more and South Africa is falling apart. I dont want to see that happen in Israel. Dont 70% of South Africans have AIDS now. Apartheid did a lot of good.
I dont know where you heard that Keebler. But Im pretty sure a navy seal with a gun can easily kill a bunch of Arabs with box cutters.
This arguement is so stupid, Im not even going to attempt to reason with you.
It's funny that you brag about finding articles in 30 seconds and what you come up with is not related to what you talking about. It seems if that was your goal it should only have taken you 2-3 seconds.
But interestingly, the references you cite appear to bolster Scouser's arguments rather than yours. Before that though, let's deal with your comments that I questioned. To refresh your memory, it was this:
The articles you've relied upon are about suicide bombers and not terrorists as you purport. Given the Israeli propensity to call just about anyone a terrorist, that group is infinitely larger than the number of suicide bombers. So, your first point goes out the window. Secondly, you state that they often go to Israeli universities but the articles don't make a single mention of it. (Maybe you can come up with some names and universities...but I'm not too confident in your abilities to come up with anything given your track record) There goes your second point. So.....you end up with nothing.basketcase said:
As for what supports Scouser, let's take a quick look.
Your first link finishes with the quote:
"A sense of duty to a brotherhood was the most important way rational people could be persuaded to kill themselves, said Scott Atran, an anthropologist at the University of Michigan."
This only serves to underline Scouser's point that abject suffering of a people (in the case of Palestinians more than 60 years) leads to the kinship that comes forth from shared suffering.
More importantly...I'm quite familiar with Pape's work and would like to quote Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism (2005; ISBN 1-4000-6317-5).
He says there is"little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions... . Rather, what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland" (p. 4).
On page 79 -80 he goes on to say "The taproot of suicide terrorism is nationalism," and that it is "an extreme strategy for national liberation"
wow ladies and gents the comment of the year
can I use that as my signature please ya ignorant dumb ass!!!!
Not sure though since unlike IDF, PLA is not known to protect those with Chinese heritage overseas from anti-Chinese attacks and have combat experiences or expertise say targeted assessinations to terrorists/high valued targets/anti-Chinese movements globally, with rigged devices or IED, detonated by remote controls in various means.
Neither PLA nor People's Armed Police have commandos trained to the same capabilities as Sayeret Matkal, Shayetet or Sayeret Dudevan to whom the Isrealis counterparts are multilingual, highly trained without nonsense, say hands on street fight like Krav Maga instead of being "academic" like Kung Fu and able to blend in to go undercover, disrupt, hunt down and execute hight stake arrests and assessinations anywhere in the world.
And how about using uparmored Caterpillar D9 or Komatasu bulldozer to demolish the minorities neighborhood as a collective punishments (no stranger to the Chinese since it's part of the history) for hiding the seperatists committed terrorists attacks.
Last but not the lease, it's hard to convince foreign Chinese, specifically those local borns to volunteer and provide assistance to the mainland Chinese breathens to conduct operations globally. Simply put China could not replicate their own version of Sayanim like the Mossad.
Plus, despite being admitted of not having those capabilities, the mainland Chinese probably claim they don't want to get themselves too "dirty" on the shadowy world of spycrafts, or simply too "extreme" for their culture....
BTW, leveraging their sheer numbers are not enough, the Israeli approach could help the Han Chinese to vastly enhance the quality of their approaches and increase the odds of reinforcing the holds on Tibet and Xinjiang....assuming they could.
They haven't had to do that, because their carrot + stick approach has worked wonderfully, compared to the Israeli stick + stick approach. The Chinese have been fairly brutal with people who oppose their rule, but they offer all their opponents an alternative which is pretty good--a life of economic prosperity and wealth, provided only that you submit to Beijing. It turns out that all most people want is to look after their families and see their kids grow up--so few of their enemies turn to radical violence.
China's hold on Tibet and Xianjiang is immesurably greater than Israel's hold on Gaza and the West Bank as a direct result.
I think it is Israel that should get out its pen and paper and take notes.
The Chinese have a formidible espionage service, but they concentrate on stealing military and industrial secrets from the United States, and don't bother themselves too much with terrorism.
Hmmmmmm, so you hate anti-Semites, but you yourself expose yourself as a racist. Apartheid did a lot of good eh; I presume so did slavery since more blacks may have been in 'gainful' employment. Am I to infer that given your line of thinking?
As for 70% of South Africans having AIDs, that is awful. How did it get that awful I wondered, then I had a look here http://www.avert.org/safricastats.htm for the statistics. Now I am left to wonder what you would have to gain from posting such a thing.
So if Israelis financing apartheid I guess that means they aren't without dirt on their hands, like everyone else worldwide?
PS: I didn't ask if Christianity was enslavement. I wanted to hear from you what you thought of the charge that people were enslaved in the name of Christianity.
More evidence of the myth of Israeli airport security:
"As airports the world over tighten their security following the attempted Christmas bombing on a Northwest Airlines plane, the final security check at Ben-Gurion International Airport is being carried out by employees who have not been trained for the job, Haaretz has learned."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1141730.html
Sorry...just pulling back the curtains and letting the light of day in.
"As airports the world over tighten their security following the attempted Christmas bombing on a Northwest Airlines plane, the final security check at Ben-Gurion International Airport is being carried out by employees who have not been trained for the job, Haaretz has learned."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1141730.html
Sorry...just pulling back the curtains and letting the light of day in.
Also, how would blowing up a plane full of Israelis improve the lives of ordinary Palestinians?
Scouser1, Did you ever travel in the old Union of South Africa? Do you know much of it's history pre-Apartheid?
Of course it would be nice to do so while the sun was up. If you were doing so you would also have mentioned that the background to the statement is that the firm that had been doing the screening recently lost the contract to do so.
Of course, any person sitting in the West would view such a occurence as a horrible tragedy, just as we view the inadvertant killing of civilians by our own forces as an awful tragedy. But consider what the reaction by ordinary Palestinians or Gazans would be. They would dance in the streets. There is so much hatred in the part of the world that our rational views dont hold. Consider: it is possible that every family in Palestine has a member or knows quite well a family whose relatives have been Killed or maimed by the israelis. They might well view the blowing up of an israeli airliner as a seminal moment in their lives, and ignore the probable consequences of such an act. And these views reverberate throughout much of the Arab world.
It is that cycle of hatred and violence which stands in the way of peace. The renunciation of violence by the Palestinians and the return to the bargaining table would reverse that cycle. That is not to suggest that Israel is without fault but generally their actions have been retaliatory or preemptive in nature.
This used to be the case in Northern Ireland as well but rational minds did prevail after many long years and a fragile peace seems to be holding. A bad peace is preferable to a good war.
False again. It's the ideology and goals of zionism (and the fanatics that adhere to it) that perpetuate this problem. A solution based on equality would work immediately, but that would put it in direct collision with zionism which is nothing more than a supremacist ideology.
It's stange that you don't ask Israel to renounce violence and bring the IDF officers responsible for it before courts of law.
And finally, Israel routinely initiates violence against Palestinians and routinely violates ceasefires.
Hey Gryf', you never did answer the poster about who 'we' are? What's up, did you forget or just follow Gayass' lead to duck and dive. So?
