Lockerbie bomber goes missing .....

WoodPeckr

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When were the RRR ever worried about committing War Crimes?....:rolleyes:
 

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No, no, no. This would be a war crime.
I agree. Just for once I'd like to see ALL civilized western democracies actually adhere to the rules of law. If we stoop down to their level, then we are no better than them. They should assign a navy task force to ensure he is safe, comfortable and happy.

BTW, aren't the drones that spy on Taliban and Al Qaeda an invasion of privacy? I'm surprised that no one on this board has brought up this obvious and horrendous human rights abuse issue yet.

The drones also contribute to global climate change to boot. Where are the groupies on this issue?
 

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Well, this is probably the death knell for any hope of a Labour govt being elected in GB for the next 50 years. Between the Iraq War, Blair's arrogance, the loopy bank bailouts, the MP's "perks" mega-scandal and this shit, the party must now be thoroughly hated by the average voter.
 

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The prosection of this guy was a joke anyway. Even if he did do that, he was a soldier following orders. What about the USAF pilots that bombed Tripoli sparking the Lockerbie retaliation? Should they stand trial for murder?
 

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What about the USAF pilots that bombed Tripoli sparking the Lockerbie retaliation? Should they stand trial for murder?
In a perfect world, yes.
Bet you are happy we don't live in a perfect world. eh....:eek:
 

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The prosection of this guy was a joke anyway. Even if he did do that, he was a soldier following orders. What about the USAF pilots that bombed Tripoli sparking the Lockerbie retaliation? Should they stand trial for murder?
Although I know from past threads that you have difficulties with such ideas - there is a significant difference between collateral military damage and terrorist acts. Further you may stretch your memory to recall that the Libyan air raid was in response to a Libyan sponsored bombing of a disco in West Berlin which killed several members of the U.S. Army Berlin Brigade.
 

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Although I know from past threads that you have difficulties with such ideas - there is a significant difference between collateral military damage and terrorist acts.
Run that by family members who lost loved ones there.
Bet they will dispute your obfuscating niceties....;)
 

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The prosection of this guy was a joke anyway. Even if he did do that, he was a soldier following orders. What about the USAF pilots that bombed Tripoli sparking the Lockerbie retaliation? Should they stand trial for murder?
The US attacked military and government targets. Libya attacked purely civilian targets.

Only a sick mind fails to see a difference.
 

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Run that by family members who lost loved ones there.
Bet they will dispute your obfuscating niceties....;)
War sucks, civilians sometimes die. Decency demands that the military aim to minimize civilian casualties. Sometimes militaries don't do that, and in those cases the collateral damage can amount to a war crime. Even when the military does its best to keep civilian casualties to a minimum, though, unfortunately some civilians still die.

The Libyans however clearly attacked purely civilian targets and intended to maximize, not minimize, civilian casualties.

That is disgusting.
 

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Libya attacked purely civilian targets.
A Libyan also shot a British policewoman (Constable Fletcher) protecting the Libyan Embassy in London and then claimed diplomatic immunity. I seem to remember hearing reports of Libyan agents murdering Libyan dissidents abroad.
 

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Not really. They treated him as a hero in Libya.
 

nottyboi

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Although I know from past threads that you have difficulties with such ideas - there is a significant difference between collateral military damage and terrorist acts. Further you may stretch your memory to recall that the Libyan air raid was in response to a Libyan sponsored bombing of a disco in West Berlin which killed several members of the U.S. Army Berlin Brigade.
There were 2 CIA agents on board, who is to say everyone else was not "collateral damage"?
 

nottyboi

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The US attacked military and government targets. Libya attacked purely civilian targets.

Only a sick mind fails to see a difference.
yeah, funny how the US seems to attack military targets like Iraq and kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
 

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There were 2 CIA agents on board, who is to say everyone else was not "collateral damage"?
Knowing two people who were murdered when that aircraft was bombed. Words desert me to express what I feel about your childish and asinine comment.
 

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Knowing two people who were murdered when that aircraft was bombed. Words desert me to express what I feel about your childish and asinine comment.
How do you think all the other friends and family of "collateral damage" feel. Do you think they say "ahh ok the Americans didn't mean to kill our child"? In your position I find it disgusting you can forgive civilian casualties in war. Maybe if Reagan did not order the bombing of Tripoli, your loved ones would be alive. In your position I find your comments about as asinine as they could be.
 

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yeah, funny how the US seems to attack military targets like Iraq and kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Actually, it is Al Qaeda that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians. AQ has a talent for killing civilians. As one Sunni Iraqi tribal elder said: "AQ offers only death and destruction."
 
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