This is only my opinion, I believe most of the Terb members here are gentlemen that we do not use Terb as a leverage to get more service out of a SP. Furthermore most of SP doesn’t read Terb because of some of the negative comments that are hurtful. Some of the new girls don’t even know about Terb. Basically, if you are a gentleman, you have a good time with any girls. Likewise, if you are a ……… Let face it, this is an internet ago, I trust over 95% of hobbyist in Toronto knows and read of Terb in fact most incall agencies only advertise on Terb. Hence mentioning Terb during a session would only make the girl feel uncomfortable and ruin the chemistry.
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Although this suggests that there are the greater number of men that are using terb as leverage for services it directly contradicts Gen's experience. In addition wouldn't the ladies that get pressured start to refuse seeing those extortionist types.
This does bring up the point that I believe there is 3 categories of SP's.
1. Indy's - with full control of whom they see and can decline if they want.
2. Agency lady that is in the loop with client bookings - this lady can also decline if she has any issues with the client.
3. Agency lady where the agency has full control over bookings - by the time the client is at the door, it is too late for the lady to decline otherwise risking a bad review.
I can see the potential for the leverage power play to happen with the 3 category. I have only used 4 agencies X1 each so I haven't gotten close enough to tell which agencies do or don't nor would I try this slimeball tactic.
In the case of an indy or agency lady with input on bookings, why would they want to put themselves in the position of this leverage. I put that in the category of 'selling your soul', I don't think that any lady would think it is worth it.
Gen.
Please believe me when I say that my comments have nothing to do with whether or not I give the SPs credit for being smart and knowing what they`re doing.
My comments are aimed at the writers, not the readers.
I look at many reviews and I agree that it would be pretty easy for the SP involved to figure out who the TERB member is who wrote the review. But I see that solely as a problem with the review, and that`s why I have raised it as an issue.
I do believe it is possible for writers to take steps to protect their identities, if they truly wish to do so.
Although I`m relatively new to reviewing, I`ll use myself as a test case. Here`s a review I posted last weekend about a session with Kareena, from The Office: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=256272&highlight=Kareena
Put aside the merits of what you think of quality of the review. My point, for this purpose, is to say I honestly believe there`s nothing in the review that discloses my identity. Furthermore, I say in the review I saw Kareena "recently," but give no indication when the session actually occurred. Although the review was written shortly after the session, I can assure you I didn`t post it one or two days later -- I allowed a period of time to pass, to ensure that Kareena would have seen a number of clients since my session.
I don`t believe Kareena knows who moviefan is (given some things I`ve posted in other threads, I sure hope not
) and that is in no way a comment on Kareena`s intelligence. I think Kareena is quite sharp.When you read reviews – you’ve got to think of the reviewer like he’s a umpire calling balls & strikes. Some are pitchers ump’s; who have a very wide strike zone & some are considered batters ump’s with a narrow zone. But they tend to be consistently one way or the other. Ball players study the umpires and know they have to make adjustments for each guys style.
Reviewers have personalities like that too – as a reader of reviews, you’ve got to read enough of a guys reviews to understand what kind of reviewer he is - then you can make allowances by downgrading his opinion for instance, if you think he consistently scores girls too high.
Another thing about umpires – some enjoy being center stage – with big flamboyant strike calls and engage in major screaming matches with managers. While others are seemingly invisible but still manage to call the balls & strikes as they see them.
Again reviewers are similar: some enjoy the center stage drama of being a star on terb – perhaps a little too much and they trip over the line into self-ego stroking.
Then there are the guys who love the drama of starting or perpetuating flame wars
Others guys write reviews that are simple, basic, bare bones style – just the facts mamm, just the facts. They’re a little dry for my taste.
But no matter what kind of Ump is calling the game – it’s still just "as he see’s it" – ie his opinion. During the playoff’s I like the strike zone graphic they have that show’s the pitch locations and whether they were really balls or strikes.
Reviewing SP’s will never get an equivalent to the strike zone graphic.
There is no truth – just experience & opinion. And those are different for each and every one of us.
PS: as a rule I don’t divulge my Terb identity – but sometimes circumstances catch you out and you end up outing yourself. But I prefer anonymity so I can give a bad review when warranted.
PPS: MovieFan and The Fruity Hare – there’s a lot of truth to what you’ve written – but it’s not worth getting bent out of shape over – the board is what it is – learn to live with it or stop torturing yourself by taking a break
Reviewers have personalities like that too – as a reader of reviews, you’ve got to read enough of a guys reviews to understand what kind of reviewer he is - then you can make allowances by downgrading his opinion for instance, if you think he consistently scores girls too high.
Another thing about umpires – some enjoy being center stage – with big flamboyant strike calls and engage in major screaming matches with managers. While others are seemingly invisible but still manage to call the balls & strikes as they see them.
Again reviewers are similar: some enjoy the center stage drama of being a star on terb – perhaps a little too much and they trip over the line into self-ego stroking.
Then there are the guys who love the drama of starting or perpetuating flame wars
Others guys write reviews that are simple, basic, bare bones style – just the facts mamm, just the facts. They’re a little dry for my taste.
But no matter what kind of Ump is calling the game – it’s still just "as he see’s it" – ie his opinion. During the playoff’s I like the strike zone graphic they have that show’s the pitch locations and whether they were really balls or strikes.
Reviewing SP’s will never get an equivalent to the strike zone graphic.
There is no truth – just experience & opinion. And those are different for each and every one of us.
PS: as a rule I don’t divulge my Terb identity – but sometimes circumstances catch you out and you end up outing yourself. But I prefer anonymity so I can give a bad review when warranted.
PPS: MovieFan and The Fruity Hare – there’s a lot of truth to what you’ve written – but it’s not worth getting bent out of shape over – the board is what it is – learn to live with it or stop torturing yourself by taking a break
Not me
I don't ever say I'm a member of TERB. Early on, when an SP asked me how I'd found her I mentioned TERB. She said I seemed "too normal" to be a member. I haven't mentioned it since.
I did like the strike zone analogy used earlier in these threads. I don't take any review verbatim, I just look for clues to things I do like in an SP, clean and safe surrounds for an incall, well spoken... That tells me more than another person's reactions to those factors.
I don't ever say I'm a member of TERB. Early on, when an SP asked me how I'd found her I mentioned TERB. She said I seemed "too normal" to be a member. I haven't mentioned it since.
I did like the strike zone analogy used earlier in these threads. I don't take any review verbatim, I just look for clues to things I do like in an SP, clean and safe surrounds for an incall, well spoken... That tells me more than another person's reactions to those factors.
I can't speak for the Fruity Hare, but in my case I'm not bent out of shape over this.
I have a particular view, which I'm prepared to defend, but I really only got into this discussion because of some things that were said on a different thread yesterday that resurrected the issue.
Sadly, I came to the conclusion some time ago that I'm on the losing side of this issue.
Ditto,
I was only commenting on the number of posters flaming each other over something they have no control over. You can't and won't change other people's habits, so best to accept them and learn to read between the lines.
No Moviefan, you are not in the losing side. There is no winning or losing here. You started a thread with your opinions and others replied with theirs. As long as there is no drama and hatred involved in replies we have to respect your thread cause you are member of this circle.
Shit, another smart one here. Hey where have you all been hiding. Well said
TFH.
A lot of interesting comments and viewpoints so far. Explicitly telling an SP your TERB handle is only one way for her to find out, here are 3 other ways.
1) You exchange TERB PM's and then go see her.
2) You are at a TERB party and SP says glad to meet you "SUPERSTUD". You ask her how she knew. She tells you it is on your nametag stuck on your chest.
3) You call to book an 8 hour appointment and say you will call from a payphone when you are at the location. Not hard to guess who you are.
1) You exchange TERB PM's and then go see her.
2) You are at a TERB party and SP says glad to meet you "SUPERSTUD". You ask her how she knew. She tells you it is on your nametag stuck on your chest.
3) You call to book an 8 hour appointment and say you will call from a payphone when you are at the location
. Not hard to guess who you are.Too funnyA lot of interesting comments and viewpoints so far. Explicitly telling an SP your TERB handle is only one way for her to find out, here are 3 other ways.
1) You exchange TERB PM's and then go see her.
2) You are at a TERB party and SP says glad to meet you "SUPERSTUD". You ask her how she knew. She tells you it is on your nametag stuck on your chest.
3) You call to book an 8 hour appointment and say you will call from a payphone when you are at the location
Anyone else find it a bit hypocritical when veterans here say "don't mention terb", yet they meet SPs at terb functions?
hypocritical? im still laughing. the rule is never divulge your terb handle to the girls? If you do you are doing nothing more then trying to get a shilly session.
end of story.
so all the girls know who the shilly dude is???? hmmmmm thats the golden rule he broke. he obviously told then who he is so he could get a better sessi0on in return for an0other lame shilly review.
why should you be? you knew going in you wqanted to get better service and thus told who you are in return for a shilly review. this is how you operate...slimey or not...its who you are.
Looking at Kya_Jean's Blog, she will be posting a 'guide to making a review'. I for one look forward to this as an independent opinion. She is not an SP, she doesn't review, she doesn't rely on the reviews but she does talk to all of us guys and gals alike through posts so she should have a good opinion of what would be a good compromise to make everyone happy. Have to wait and see as she has been sick, may you get well soon.
I personally see that because there are no rules or template per se, so its wide open for interpretation as to what should be in a review. We are all different in the style we want to write in and read, so we need to take that into consideration before criticizing the reviews.
Phooey on the "Fight Club" reference
Yes I chat about TERB all the time.
With rare exception, I only meet gals via TERB (admire their posts) and/or
meet gals via OTHER gals who ad and post on TERB.
When together we often talk and laugh about the good, bad and ugly on TERB.
Just like we watch silly TV shows and go to silly movies.
Yes I chat about TERB all the time.
With rare exception, I only meet gals via TERB (admire their posts) and/or
meet gals via OTHER gals who ad and post on TERB.
When together we often talk and laugh about the good, bad and ugly on TERB.
Just like we watch silly TV shows and go to silly movies.
Fine, I guess.Yes I chat about TERB all the time.
With rare exception, I only meet gals via TERB (admire their posts) and/or
meet gals via OTHER gals who ad and post on TERB.
When together we often talk and laugh about the good, bad and ugly on TERB.
Just like we watch silly TV shows and go to silly movies.
My point to the people who reveal their TERB identities to the ladies and then post reviews is that they shouldn't be surprised when others question the "believability" of their reviews.
Dont mind him moviefan, just joined and seems to be quite the hater already.....very odd.
