Say it again LOUDER, the minions have ear plugs. Then again they are just deaf and dumb.
I negotiated with my MD
- Thread starter Big Rig
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I negotiated a lower rate guaranteed for future work if I let him use me in advertising
I said I would but that I would only state the truth of his work which is quite good but not perfect as they are not taught to do perfect work - IE they start at the hairline and work back which is the opposite way in which you lose it and the hair line is too even which is unnatural - which would improve if they lost their monopoly IMHO and the price would drop by over half
Funny how those who have ridiculed me have yet to debate me intelligently
Dude, it's the Internet. What did you expect?
What do you want? Would you like us to all agree to your wild crackpot assertions based solely on your assurances? Not likely to happen. And since we all seem to feel that the medical standards in this country are pretty good, not many of us likely feel like debating a non-issue.
I do not believe you have the technical background or experience necessary to assess whether or not medical training is required or not for a given procedure, especially something like organ transplants. Wait - you're talking about hair transplants??!!
Go sell crazy somewhere else.
I am pretty sure they were referring to a "discount doctor" not the current ones as cutting corners to retain a profit margin.Well, at over a million per year in profit I think he can afford the better dish soap
That's one of the 'dangers' when negotiating a lower rate for a home renovation for example. Sure you can convince the guy to do it for less, but what corners are going to be cut (no pun intended) as he tries to minimize his costs to match the lower price.
Fine to say that there will be a board to oversee the capabilities of those doing the surgery, but it won't help if you're one of the bad cases that cause the doc to lose his right to do the surgery in question.
Perhaps you came across as having your mind already made up so he didn't see the point? Are you really surprised you didn't get 100% level of service when you had negotiated a less than 100% price?
I do agree that elective surgery prices are pretty high, but personally I'd rather have dental fees looked at. $140 for a half-hour cleaning by the dental hygenist and a 30 sec peek by the dentist seems a titch ridiculous to me.
You could always do your dentistry yourself.
Me, I don't tend to complain about the cost of anything I'm not willing to do myself, like dental work.
Me, I don't tend to complain about the cost of anything I'm not willing to do myself, like dental work.
I do tend to agree with you on that, I was leaning more towards illustrating that it would be a better effort to try and reduce the costs of getting necessary (in my opinion) treatment as opposed to the costs of vanity surgery.
Even though everybody is jumping on BigRig, the fact is he's probably right in one sense. Doctors have so little competition, that they could dictate prices if the law allowed them to.
Its true that one may very well require 10 years of education in order to perform these so-called "simple" procedures....However, the reality is that there are plenty of individuals willing to take the time and stress to go through that amount of training required to become a qualified doctor - but they are never given the chance to begin with.
It all starts with medical schools who happily reject many qualified candidates, who, given the chance to be trained by the establishment, would go on to become entirely competent doctors.
Yet, they are never given the oppurtunity, because the establishment wants to keep the number of trained doctors as low as possible... Why is that? Could it be that a limited supply of doctors means more patients chasing few doctors - which is where the laws of economics come into play - and doctors continue to get paid top dollar for their services, year after year?
And what about the public at large? Well, we get to enjoy longer wait times, higher medical costs (either through insurance premiums or taxes), and often sub-standard service, which we can never openly complain about without fear of getting blacklisted by the medical community.
What would happen if the establisment suddenly decided to double the number of admissions to medical schools?
Its true that one may very well require 10 years of education in order to perform these so-called "simple" procedures....However, the reality is that there are plenty of individuals willing to take the time and stress to go through that amount of training required to become a qualified doctor - but they are never given the chance to begin with.
It all starts with medical schools who happily reject many qualified candidates, who, given the chance to be trained by the establishment, would go on to become entirely competent doctors.
Yet, they are never given the oppurtunity, because the establishment wants to keep the number of trained doctors as low as possible... Why is that? Could it be that a limited supply of doctors means more patients chasing few doctors - which is where the laws of economics come into play - and doctors continue to get paid top dollar for their services, year after year?
And what about the public at large? Well, we get to enjoy longer wait times, higher medical costs (either through insurance premiums or taxes), and often sub-standard service, which we can never openly complain about without fear of getting blacklisted by the medical community.
What would happen if the establisment suddenly decided to double the number of admissions to medical schools?
yet you conveniently ignore those who easily poke holes in your "theory."
unless you have actively practiced medicine, you have no idea of the depth and complexity of this topic.
and the more you say the more obviously you are ignorant on the topic.
competition is completely irrelevant. the issue is COMPETENCE. come on people.
prices? this is not a fuckin grocery store. look up how physicians in ontario get paid.
Maybe anyone should be allowed to practice medicine. Only the "doctors" whose patients survive would get any business. Free Market Economy, right? Right? Guys?
Of course, Big Rig was talking about hair plugs or something. Not medicine.
Of course, Big Rig was talking about hair plugs or something. Not medicine.
there you go. one could (big rig for example) have their abscess drained by the check out clerk at loblaws. no problem.
Lets say we allowed medical schools to double the number of admissions each year....would you expect the quality of service of provided my medical professionals to significantly suffer in the long-term? My guess there wouldn't even be a noticeable drop in quality.
However with more doctors avaible to the public, in a free-market system their earnings would naturally drop. In a taxpayer funded system, their would be a lot more political pressure to cap doctors earnings.
By the way, this article might be of interest to some:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061004/ont_doctors_061004?s_name=&no_ads
Then why would they bother becoming doctors when plumbers can make more money?
Or, they'd go to the US where they can get paid more...
