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Actually, the difference is that there are other parameters, such as the voting results, to verify the results of the election, not what the newspapers tell us.
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When was the last time you saw the voting result directly, and not just heard about it I the media?

I can give you a zillion examples of things reported in the news that you would have a very hard time independently confirming, but that your trust implicitly.

How do you really know this story is true:

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/20/bedbugs-infest-nyc-health-department-headquarters

Short of essentially becoming a reporter yourself and flying to NYC to investigate it, you can't really. You just trust that the newspapers are in the business of printing the actual news and don't make it up.

However in this case your partisanship has you questioning stuff in a really kooky way. Just nuts to imagine that only in the case of Rob Ford, and not in other cases, the Globe, Star, CTV, and Gawker have all decided to do something they otherwise never do, and intentionally print lies.
 
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fuji said:
When was the last time you saw the voting result directly, and not just heard about it I the media?
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Because the newspapers simply regurgitate the results that they get from Elections Canada.

If I had to rely on The Star being in charge of counting the votes that would be a different story.
 
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Because the newspapers simply regurgitate the results that they get from Elections Canada.

If I had to rely on The Star being in charge of counting the votes that would be a different story.
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The Star and Globe simply regurgitated what they learned about Ford from various witnesses.
 
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Elections Canada and drug dealers are equally believable?
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Nope. But Star and Globe reporters are just as believable covering either story.

When the Globe says that have found ten people who all claim to be first hand witnesses to the Ford family drug enterprise, believe them.
 
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anyone know the longest running thread on terb? is 3903 replies even close?

pssstt.. btw did anyone show up with that video yet?
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No, it`s not even close.

Are you asking about the video of David Price at the Georgetown GO station? I haven`t seen it so maybe none of that happened and it was all dreamed up by the Toronto Sun.

The Toronto Sun said:
Mayor Rob Ford on staffer tantrum allegations: `It`s no one`s business`
Mayor Rob Ford says “it’s no one’s business” what happens with the people in his office.

Ford made the remark Thursday after spending most of the day running away from reporters’ questions about one of his senior staffers being investigated by GO Transit safety officers for several incidents at the Georgetown GO station.

Dave Price, Ford’s director of operations and logistics, is being investigated after an alleged angry run-in with a station attendant on Aug. 27. The investigation into that incident along with other incidents at the Georgetown station could take several weeks to complete, a Metrolinx spokesman said.

Marc Surette, who owns the Trackside Cafe in the station, told the Toronto Sun Price missed a train that day and told the attendant to “f--- off” before slamming one of the stations wooden doors open, causing it to hit an outside ledge and crack. When Surette confronted Price about his behaviour, the Ford staffer replied: “Yeah, f--- you d---head, what are you going to do about it?”

Price has not responded to a request for comment about the incident.

His boss, Mayor Ford, didn’t have much to say about the incident Thursday when he finally addressed it.

“It’s actually no one’s business what happens in my office,” Ford said after a press conference celebrating the one-year anniversary of his trade mission to Chicago. “I take care of the people that work for me and they do a great job, as you see.”

Ford acknowledged Metrolinx was conducting an investigation.

“Right now, I know as much as you know and that is all that I can say,” he said. “I don’t comment on personnel issues.”

Councillor Denzil Minnan-Wong — a member of Ford’s executive committee — called Price’s alleged conduct “unacceptable.”

“When you hold a significant position in the mayor’s office you can’t escape the fact that when you do things like that it reflects badly on the mayor,” Minnan-Wong said. “Improper, violent conduct, where you destroy property and use foul language, you should know better and it should be dealt with in the clearest way sending a very clear message.

“The mayor has to ask himself whether he wants people like that working for him if it’s true.”

Councillor Adam Vaughan accused Ford of being a “hypocrite” when it comes to taxpayer-funded staff. Vaughan pointed out the Fords attacked his executive assistant on the radio — accusing her falsely of being married to a prominent planner and, in a separate incident, a union leader.

“It was in a period of two weeks and they got it wrong both times but they had no hesitation about going after a staff person and holding me to account for it,” he said. “If you’re going to respect taxpayers’ money you’ve got to be accountable and your staff represent you so therefore you have to be held to account for their behaviour.”
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Typical Con bullshit to campaign on a promise of transparency, and once in office refuse to live up to it. And I don`t see how a true conservative voter could agree that what happens in a high level public office, or with the employees of that office, is not the public`s business. It`s the taxpayers who are paying Price $130,000 for his Ford-invented. gravy train riding job. And for the office space itself.
Must take a huge degree of cognitive dissonance to stay aligned with Ford`s statements.

The article is also another instance of just how awful Ford is at his job. On one hand he claims that what happens in his office is no one`s business and then a second later says he won`t comment on personal issues.
David Price`s incident at the GO station: business or personal? Being a career politician Ford cannot seem to separate the two.
 
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You come across as an educated and nice girl...a little naive but a nice girl. You want to change the world...so do most politicians before they get into politics. The ideas are big, the ideals won't be broken etc. I doubt you'll get elected...too much of a stigma attached to being a "hooker", but if you do, you will change. You will become what you hate because the power will get to you. It's addictive and it gets to all politicians. You will end up not so naive but you won't like what you become
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Quoted for truth.

There's another reason why politicians become corrupt, when they've been in the game for a long time (like Chretien), they start to think the country owes them something. Mix in all the hate they receive from the media and the public, and they start creating slush funds to get "even".

See Adscam
 
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There's the REAL problem!

MattRoxx said:
Typical Con bullshit to campaign on a promise of transparency, and once in office refuse to live up to it.
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You've hit the nail SQUARELY and FIRMLY on the head Matty!

You can just as easily state: Typical Fiberal bullshit to campaign on a promise of transparency, and once in office refuse to live up to it.

It doesn't matter if its Liberal, Conservative or NDP! The problem is systemic, and WIDESPREAD throughout our political spectrum! Another election won't solve the probelm, because the next bunch of idiots is all the same, just with different names.

Time for a:



And Jessica.... what video?
 
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Sorry Jenn,

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It was way more than a few grams of hash for his buddies and it was definitely not just hash.

It was coke and a lot of it.
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With all due respect, this is merely hearsay as well... In fact, you could be categorized as the paradigm of "un-named" sources.

(Can we call you Deepthroat? :p :D)
 
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http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/24/mayor-rob-ford-approval-rating-up-hes-on-a-roll

Mayor Rob Ford approval rating up: 'He's on a roll'

Mayor Rob Ford’s approval rating is up and on track to break 50%, according to a new poll.

A new Forum Research poll provided exclusively to the Sun finds Ford’s approval rating is at 49% — up from 44% at the end of August.

The poll of around 1,082 Toronto residents on Saturday and Sunday found 49% of those polled approve of the job Ford is doing while 51% disapprove of the job the mayor is doing.

“He’s on a roll,” Forum president Lorne Bozinoff said Tuesday. “He’s actually on a roll.”

Ford’s approval rating hasn’t been up around 49% since an April 5 poll. The only time his approval rating has been higher than 49% was during his first few months in office.

Bozinoff predicted Ford’s approval rating could go even higher in the wake of Monday’s announcement from the federal government pledging $660 million for the Scarborough subway.

“I’m sure it would be higher if we did it now,” he said, adding Ford’s approval rating was already around 60% in Scarborough on the weekend.

He credited the upswing in Ford’s rating to a lack of recent personal controversies.

“All that stuff about the video and all that seems to have stopped,” Bozinoff said. “He also seems to be focusing more on positioning himself for re-election. He’s starting to talk about promises he’s delivered on.

“He’s got now like three or four months to make his case without the counter argument (from any election rivals).”

The poll also asked how residents feel about term limits. Around 59% approve of term limits for the mayor while 31% disapprove and 10% didn’t know. Around 63% of those polled said they support term limits for councillors while 24% disagree and 13% didn’t have an answer.

The poll was conducted through an interactive voice response telephone survey. Forum considers the results accurate within 3%, 19 times out of 20
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fuji, in 3, 2, 1...

To refute the findings as being totally biased due to the nature of the Sun's editorial stance...
 
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Ridgeman08 said:
fuji, in 3, 2, 1...

To refute the findings as being totally biased due to the nature of the Sun's editorial stance...
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Of which I would tend to agree...


(Same as the Star's reporting of everything ANTI ford...)
 
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Further to my 2 previous posts...

The Star is completely to blame for this "back fire"! They totally screwed this whole "Ford is a crack addict" bull shit story.

People just aren't buying it. :rolleyes:
 
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Unless your on-line persona is named "fuji"... he's bought into it for the long haul!
 
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Further to my 2 previous posts...

The Star is completely to blame for this "back fire"! They totally screwed this whole "Ford is a crack addict" bull shit story.

People just aren't buying it. :rolleyes:
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Rob Ford's posse bought all 3 crack videos MAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN. And they probably had a few Somali drug dealers killed in the process.


Also, that poll is rigged. The Sun is heavily biased. The Star is the only completely objective media out there MAAAANNNNN
 
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MattRoxx said:
here you go:

here you go:

Quote Originally Posted by MattRoxx View Post
http://warrenkinsella.com/category/musings/

The scene: a Starbucks, at Yonge and St. Clair.

The players: Kevin Donovan, the lead investigative reporter at the Toronto Star, and James Lockyer, the founding director of the Association in Defence of the Wrongly Convicted.

The mood: convivial, certain, but (obviously) insufficiently discreet.

Key elements in the dialogue:

The video exists, and it has been seen by many, many Toronto defence layers, following Crown disclosure arising out of June’s Dixon Road “Project Traveler” police raids.
In the video, a large man – Lockyer does not say who he is, but he doesn’t need to – is clearly seen smoking a yellowish substance. There is no doubt who he is, or what he is doing.
The authenticity of the video, and who is in it, has been independently confirmed by a very high-ranking police official.
Will it ever come out? (Probably.)

Will it force him from office before the end of his term? (Unlikely.)

And on and on the little drama goes. Where it stops, nobody knows.
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About a month ago the above was posted by MattRoxx. the gist of it was a claim by Warren Kinsella that the video exists and has been seen by many toronto defence lawyers.
In the article below Kinsella now says that the video is "gone".


http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2013/09/20130924-073627.html
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
Rob Ford's posse bought all 3 crack videos MAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN. And they probably had a few Somali drug dealers killed in the process.


Also, that poll is rigged. The Sun is heavily biased. The Star is the only completely objective media out there MAAAANNNNN
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Phil, it looks like you have finally come to see the truth... :rolleyes:
Don't you feel better now?
 
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