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Zelenskyy: Ceasefire 'possible' the moment Russia agrees

Frankfooter

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What would it take to end the war as far as Zelensky is concern? another 150B? If after 150B all you can tell me is "welp...we're holding the line here"...that's not very promising LoL...and why is he crying at Trump? is Trump his daddy? Looks like it...
It wouldn't take much, El Risitas.
Just give Ukraine some new, longer range weapons.
Let them take out Russia's energy infrastructure.
 

seanzo

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Wow. What a twisted way of thinking. But I guess it’s no surprise—some folks are still swallowing the Russian farm-bot propaganda campaign hook, line, and sinker.

Tell me, in what world does the victim—Zelensky and the people of Ukraine, whose country was invaded without provocation by a nuclear-armed madman—suddenly become the aggressor who needs to be “put in his place”? That kind of upside-down logic only works if you’ve abandoned facts, history, and basic human decency.
Play ostrich and bury your head in the sand all you want. Ukraine has lost and the longer people refuse to accept it the more likely Ukraine will cease to exist once the guns fall silent.
 

squeezer

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Play ostrich and bury your head in the sand all you want. Ukraine has lost and the longer people refuse to accept it the more likely Ukraine will cease to exist once the guns fall silent.

Yes, of course, the classic "Ukraine has lost" hot take with a dose of a bold declaration with all the nuance of a bumper sticker. Funny how people claiming to see the real picture are always the first to write obituaries before the war’s even over.

You talk about burying heads in the sand, but declaring Ukraine finished while they’re still holding ground, regaining territory, and rallying international support? That’s not realism—that’s surrender cosplay.

No one’s pretending this war isn’t brutal or that Ukraine hasn’t suffered. But reducing it to "they lost, move on" ignores the entire strategic, political, and moral dimension at play. Russia wanted a quick, clean takeover but what it got was years of resistance and a global backlash. And Ukraine? Still standing.

So if you're looking for someone playing ostrich, maybe check the mirror—you seem awfully eager to declare defeat for a country that refuses to give up.

Now go and see if Putin will throw you some rubles for your support.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
Yes, of course, the classic "Ukraine has lost" hot take with a dose of a bold declaration with all the nuance of a bumper sticker. Funny how people claiming to see the real picture are always the first to write obituaries before the war’s even over.
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Not all is lost. Trump and Zelensky's mineral deal will offer Ukraine
protection from future Russian aggression after the war.

Security of the deal into the future cannot be guaranteed though. Chance
is Zelensky will be assassinated by patriotic Ukrainian dissenters for being
the sellout he is.
 

squeezer

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Not all is lost. Trump and Zelensky's mineral deal will offer Ukraine
protection from future Russian aggression after the war.

Security of the deal into the future cannot be guaranteed though. Chance
is Zelensky will be assassinated by patriotic Ukrainian dissenters for being
the sellout he is.
The only sellouts are you and the folks who support Putin, sorry to say but it's the truth.
 
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oil&gas

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The only sellouts are you and the folks who support Putin, sorry to say but it's the truth.
My conscience is clear. It is folks like Trudeau and his supporters
who have contributed to fueling and escalation of the Ukraine war.
As a taxpayer I regret my tax money was spent on prolonging the war
all for Trudeau's craving for virtue-signalling. But there is nothing I
could have done to hold Trudeau from getting more Ukrainians killed.
 
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