Zeitgeist

I actually downloaded it and watched it in its entirety a couple times... MIND BOGGLING!

Part 1: Take it or leave it... Not really into the whole religion thing anyway...

Part 2: WOW! What an eye opener! I've watched a couple other documentaries regarding the 911 "terrorist" attacks as well. "Loose Change" and "911: In plane site".

Part 3: Totally believable given the economic meltdown we are currently going through!

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Edit: My comments were about the original Zeitgeist film... I now realize there's a new one!
 
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Aardvark154 said:
No, it's two hours utterly wasted. This idiotic movie has been discussed ad nauseam on TERB. If you chose to believe tripe such as this, I suppose I can't stop you. :mad:

But you have to try, dumbass.
 
danmand said:
But you have to try, dumbass.
What have to try to believe bullshit? I dare say that's true.

Or have to try to convince the o.p. that it's bullshit? If the later I'm sorry but I just have too many other plates in the air at present to beat a dead horse.
 
Aardvark154 said:
No, it's two hours utterly wasted. This idiotic movie has been discussed ad nauseam on TERB. If you chose to believe tripe such as this, I suppose I can't stop you. :mad:

Your attitude towards others watching this just show how big of a close-minded dumb ass you are
 
LKD said:
Your attitude towards others watching this just show how big of a close-minded dumb ass you are
Well in that case I'm honoured to be a "close-minded dumb ass." Would you perhaps be interested in purchasing a bridge?
 
that whole religion thing was all speculatiions

but the numbers about the banking system in this movie and zeitgeist addendum r pretty accurate
 
Cycleguy007 said:
Ahhh, ya think? LOL

BTW- You have just summed up EVERY RELIGION known to man in 7 words! WELL DONE
lol ... I'm not sure that the message can be condensed into 7 words, but maybe into one paragraph ...

Organised religious systems, as we understand them today, are the antithesis of creating one unifying philosophy of human consciousness. Our current religious systems, and their distorted dogma, interpretations and beliefs, have evolved into institutions deliberately designed to enslave their followers, and condition them into serving the high priests of the status quo, who would have them believe that the only way to salvation is through worshiping a patriarchal, all-powerful god, whom they claim to represent, and the perpetuation of their hierarchical power structures, delusions, and preconditions. In truth, awakening to one's pure spiritual nature requires no faith in any religious belief system, or separate god, whatsoever. The only prerequisite is the desire and the will to accept unconditioned awareness and love ... period. Everything else is an illusion or a lie.
 
snowleopard said:
lol ... I'm not sure that the message can be condensed into 7 words, but maybe into one paragraph ...

Organised religious systems, as we understand them today, are the antithesis of creating one unifying philosophy of human consciousness. Our current religious systems, and their distorted dogma, interpretations and beliefs, have evolved into institutions deliberately designed to enslave their followers, and condition them into serving the high priests of the status quo, who would have them believe that the only way to salvation is through worshiping a patriarchal, all-powerful god, whom they claim to represent, and the perpetuation of their hierarchical power structures, delusions, and preconditions. In truth, awakening to one's pure spiritual nature requires no faith in any religious belief system, or separate god, whatsoever. The only prerequisite is the desire and the will to accept unconditioned awareness and love ... period. Everything else is an illusion or a lie.

WELL SAID Snowleopard! Well Said!

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That has been discussed on TERB before.

I watched it and the addendum with an open mind. It is a conspiracy theory junkies’ overdose.

Like most conspiracy theories, it’s based on a little bit of fact and a whole lot of conjecture. Then they lead you down a completely ridiculous path. They come up with some crack-pot “experts” that support their theories. They try to make you doubt everything that you thought you knew about the world.

The origins of Christianity.
This was probably the most factual part of the movie. Based on what I’ve read about the formation of Christianity and its pagan roots, the movie is mostly true. However, I don’t believe that Judaism and Christianity copied anything from the Egyptians. Rather, they all copied the same source, the Sumerians.

They lost me when they said that Jesus probably never existed. Also, to quote George Carlin’s stand up routine as a serious commentary on religion was quite a stretch.

9/11
Total bullshit. I didn’t find anything credible about what they were saying.


The fractional banking system.
The story about how the financial system works and the relationship between equity and debt is mostly true. That doesn’t mean that it is a false system or that it is unsustainable. Nor is it controlled by a small group of evil men, bent on enslaving the human race.


The new world order.
Conspiracy theories abound where some evil megalomaniacs plot to take over the world in Pinky and the Brain fashion. They take George Bush Sr.’s state of the union speak out of context, talking about a new world order. He was referring the to the post cold war world where we can have peace, love and prosperity. He wasn’t referring to something sinister like the movie suggests.


The Venus Project
This is certainly new world order stuff if there ever was. It sounds all warm and fuzzy and wonderful but it’s a world that I would really hate to live in. I couldn’t help but think, this is something that Kurt Vonnegut would write about.
Humans can’t live like that. We don’t thrive in a world with no responsibility, no purpose and nothing to challenge us where machines do all the work for us. Just watch the movie WALL-E if you would like to live in a future like that.



Conspiracy theories thrive on people’s paranoia and fear. I can’t help but laugh when I encounter someone who’s really into this crap, and then tells me that I’m gullible and naive for NOT believing them.
 
I have to concur with my friend Cinema Face here. First of all, there isn't really any doubt that a fellow named Jesus Christ existed. There are plenty of independent extra-biblical sources that support his existence. Whether he was the son of god is another question entirely.

The 9/11 conspiracy theories are just nonsense, as is the whole banking system conspiracy hypothesis.

It's a well-done little bit of amateur-hour film for documentary class in community college, but it's got nothing at all to do with reality.