Your close call with HIV...
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What exactly is a "close call" with HIV? You mean like it knocked on your door but you didn't answer? As long as it wasn't one of those fixed rate natural gas salesmen. I hate those bastards.
haha not that extreme... I mean, sometimes your little head takes over and you do it bareback with a random chick you picked up at a bar
i can imagine q-tip stings... I had a cousin who had problems urinating because of kidney stones in his bladder ... I heard they had to stick up a tube up his penis and it hurt reaaalll bad no doubt... you don't stick things into places where things are meant to come out only lol
Would there be a list of names and telephone numbers of ladies who do offer bareback full service?
I would say that anyone that takes recreational drugs or passes out from drinking is in greater danger that most people in society. I know a guy that has a regular job and what seems like an ordinary life, but has a cocaine habit. Like birds of a feather he hangs around with people that are just like him. It is more of a mutual supply line where if one can not score the others will help him score so that in the future they will receive the favor in return. These are ordinary people with ordinary jobs, house wives, people you would not suspect are hooked on coke. He has told me of drunken coke parties where people have passed out and were taken advantage of on their unconscious state. Or on one occasion he gets a call from a house wife in his circle of coke buddies to bring her some coke right away. He brings it to her and as she is on her knees snorting it on a book on her living room floor, he lifts her skirt and has his way with her without any protest. People that pass out or or loose control because they are in a euphoric high expose themselves to amazing dangers.
Tell me where what I say is wrong?
The one question is to define 'regular' testing. Reading some of the braggadocios posts on TERB, there are members who have sex with a few hundred of women a year, civilian or pro. Even if half the stories are true, the odds are too much, considering the life altering consequences of HIV or other STDs. In this case, annually or semi annually would not be unreasonable and more would be better.
Another reason is early detection can make treatment much more successful.
BTW there are different tests for HIV, including antibody, p24 antigen, NAT, etc
The Health Nurse commented on the subject of the NAT test for HIV:
"The HIV DNA PCR (NAAT test) 90% of people would test positive by 10-12 days after being infected and 95-98% of people would test positive 4-6 weeks after being infected."
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?134988-HIV-Symtoms-Worries&highlight=antigen
Various numbers are given by differing sources, the earliest being 5 days after an infection to detect HIV:
"Nucleic Acid Amplification Testing (NAT) is the newest technology available at Anonymous Clinic to determine your HIV status after only 5 days of possible exposure to the infection. New, safe and extremely accurate, with NAT you can now know your status much earlier, shortening the window period between the infection and detectability of disease."
"...HIV can be detected on after only 5 days of exposure, average 2 weeks..."
http://www.adamslove.org/en-d.php?id=70
"It is now possible to diagnose HIV infection within the first 3 weeks of onset using nucleic acid testing (NAT).5"
http://journals.lww.com/jaids/Fullt...ce_and_Characterization_of_Acute_HIV_1.6.aspx
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15872202
"For HIV-1, the average window period with antibody is 22 days. This window period is reduced approximately to 16 days with antigen testing and to 12 days with NAT."
http://www.thebody.com/content/art13891.html?ic=800101
"Since routine HIV antibody tests yield negative results during the first four to five weeks of HIV infection,6 acute infections can be diagnosed during this period only with the use of tests for viral antigens, nucleic acids, or both.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa042291
NAT testing is also used to help stop HIV infected blood from blood donors being used for transfusions:
"He credits the use of nucleic acid testing for reducing the window of detection to just a few days following infection. The United States has virtually eliminated HIV infected blood from the blood supply. And what about the next 5 to 10 years? “I sincerely hope that we will see a cure, a vaccine, or both,” says George."
Then there is the p24 antigen test for HIV which is covered by BC health care:
"The p24 antigen test detects actual HIV viral protein in blood. The test is generally positive from about one week to 3-4 weeks after infection with HIV.
http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/p24/tab/test
"Fourth generation tests
"Some of the most modern HIV tests combine P24 antigen tests with standard antibody tests to reduce the ‘diagnostic window’. Testing for antibodies and P24 antigen simultaneously has the advantage of enabling earlier and more accurate HIV detection.
"In the UK, fourth generation tests are the primary recommendation for HIV testing among individuals, but are not offered by all testing sites.1 During June 2010, the FDA approved the first fourth generation test in the United States.2"
http://www.avert.org/testing.htm
These tests are useful to identify an infection of HIV in the early "acute" stage of HIV so it can be treated more effetively and when it is the most infectious.
"...the HIV antibody test will not detect a recently infected donor, so some blood banks use a p24 antigen or HIV nucleic acid test in addition to the basic antibody test to detect infected donors during that period."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_donation
"The availability of nucleic acid tests (NAT), which reduces the window period and makes testing much more accurate, helped to support the argument for a change in the ban against MSM donating. These tests have been found to almost eliminate the possibility that HIV infected blood will pass through the testing stage, even in countries with high prevalence.33"
http://www.avert.org/blood-safety-hiv.htm
I get tested every six months just for peace of mind. At my last phsyical i mentioned I got one ball bigger than the other. I've had this for years and thought it was normal but I decided to bring it up. I went for a ultrasound and thought nothing of it until I was in the room with this male technician who didn't seem impressed. It seemed like it was taking longer than expected and it didn't help that buddy never cracked a smile the entire time. It was a bad buzz but results came back normal. All I was thinking is that I am gonna lose my left ball or something.
I believe such a list is not allowed here.
For guys who plan on engaging in this, you should do so safely & monogamously, not with ladies or SP`s who are advertising it or doing it with many people, because that makes it far more dangerous.
But if you are clean & have BB vaginal sex with a woman who has just tested negative for STIs & HIV using (1) antibody and (2) NAT and/or p24 antigen, your chances of HIV infection are very low.
"In 2009 blood screened for HIV in Greater Accra, Ghana amounted to 33, 294 units of blood, of which 3. 68 percent was found to be HIV positive. 45 Ghana tests 100 percent of its blood donations, however this is done using only antibody tests. Therefore the window period remains a significant interval, which suggests some units may continue to pass through screening undetected.
"In October 2005, South Africa introduced NAT testing and as a result there were no cases of HIV transmission by blood transfusion reported to the haemovigilance programme, a transfusion surveillance system. 46 47
"The availability of nucleic acid tests (NAT) , which reduces the window period and makes testing much more accurate, helped to support the argument for a change in the ban against MSM donating. These tests have been found to almost eliminate the possibility that HIV infected blood will pass through the testing stage, even in countries with high prevalence. 33"
"If a person receives a blood transfusion with HIV-infected blood, there is a 95 percent risk they will become infected with the virus. 4 However the chances of becoming infected with HIV through a blood transfusion varies between countries depending on the level of safety precautions in place, and there is a notable difference between high and low-income countries. In the UK, the risk is now 1 in 5 million. 5"
http://www.avert.org/blood-safety-hiv.htm
One in 5 million. This gives some idea of the HIV risk in having one act of bareback sex with an individual (aged 17 to 65) who has just had this NAT test & donated blood. Note also that recieving HIV in blood from a donor will almost surely infect you (95 percent of the time, as stated) , whereas one act of BB vaginal sex with an infected lady is unlikely to cause you harm (maybe 1 in 2000 chance of getting HIV). Which means the risk level for vaginal BBFS with a random blood donor in the UK would be more like 1 in 5 million X 1900 = 1 in 9,750,000,000, or 1 in about 10 billion.
Bareback {no condom** sex article.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-sex-article&p=1252316&viewfull=1#post1252316
Discussion - Lost another Regular to BBFS... WTF!.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...to-BBFS-WTF!&p=1269183&viewfull=1#post1269183
I remember when I was doing my first degree back in the late 80's early 90's, to go by what the student rag said, we should all have Aids now. Thankfully that fear mongering and over reaction was about as accurate as the Club of Rome back in the 70's. Not that I ever took either too seriously.
guess it all depends on one's luck... I've heard people who've played dangerously all their lives, don't contract anything... While some people, whose luck run out on the first time. :/
