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james t kirk

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I can appreciate that the liberals are facing a huge deficit thanks to the conservatives, but photo rada is a joke.

What possible kind of revenue could the thing raise?

If Dalton is so stupid as to bring back photo radar, he deserves to be turfed in the next election.

I can understand him breaking his promises that were going to cost cash, but I will be looking to him to hold the line on spending as well. Like for example with the teachers who are salivating thinking that they are entitled to huge raises. All my teacher friends are already counting on "more money for education" which translates into a raise and work less in my eyes.

Dalton would have looked a lot more credible in my eyes if he had kept his promise to stop the development of the oad ridges morain for no other reason than he did what he said he was going to do.

This is where Harris was great. He did exactly what he said he was going to do.

If Dalton figures he can be just another bureaucrat and spend money on pet social projects like a drunken sailor, he is in for a shock.
 
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JimboJ

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JTK - "This is where Harris was great. He did exactly what he said he was going to do."

Politician, one of the few jobs where you can get in trouble actually doing what you say you are going to
 
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hmmm, Dalton whining about the deficit is crap... Pre-election he had stated that the expected deficit was higher than it turned out to be... he had no intention of fulfilling any promise.. he just knew that Canadians in general don't vot FOR someone they vote AGAINST someone... and the Tories were going to get voted against !!
 
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We should have a thread dedicated to keeping track of the promises that the Liberals have broken, along with the surprises they're laying on us. And then make it a sticky for the next four years!!!
 
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Goober Mcfly

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Snake Pliskin said:
We should have a thread dedicated to keeping track of the promises that the Liberals have broken, along with the surprises they're laying on us. And then make it a sticky for the next four years!!!
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Think of the bandwidth that would waste!
 
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Average Joe

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Dalton McGuinty is an asshat. Whoever voted for him should be slapped repeatedly with a partially decomposed trout
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Why you chose that particular weapon (instead of perhaps fear, surprise or ruthless efficiency) I don't know but it gave me a good laugh in an otherwise dull day. Thanks.
 
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Cause we have no viable, credible alternatives other than the liberals, both federally and provincially. Other parties are so "partisan" on issues that the liberals look like they are really "mainstream", a party of people by comparison.

Aren't all professional politicans the same? They speak one thing during the campaign and they always do another things when they get elected. The only difference will be whether he or she is an old-schooled politicans, a street-smart guy who is extremely good at committing or intend to do something without promising outright to deliver on the record.

No wonder many capable or professional politicans are good lawyers/attorneys before entering politics.

Would the Tories necessarily stop using photo radar if they get re-elected last time? I doubt it given the current deficit. The tories might spin-off the LCBO first and see whether the spin-off can somehow mitigate the deficit before thinking of restoring photo-radar.

BTW, Kathleen you look red hot as always. Hmm......pie.
 
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Snake Pliskin

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I really don't understand the problem with photo-radar.
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The problem is the ticket goes to the vehicle's owner, not the driver. What if you let someone else borrow your car? More importantly, what about fleet vehicles? The penalty needs to be imposed on the actual offender, not the assumed offender.
 
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The main problem I see with photo radar is that the vehicle owner gets the ticket, not the driver. Your son/daughter borrows your car and gets you a bill. You drive a company car/truck and your employer gets the bill, and you catch the grief. How about explaining to your SO why your car was in Niagara Falls when you were supposed to be at a meeting in Toronto? Or explaining the same thing to your boss? The cops are lazy enough now, sitting at the side of the road just aiming a radar gun as if speeding was the one and only problem out on the roads. Some of the wacky things I've seen on the road....I'm ordering the laser cannon option on my next car!
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Average Joe

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Snake Pliskin said:
The problem is the ticket goes to the vehicle's owner, not the driver. What if you let someone else borrow your car?
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On the flip side, because the radar can't detect who's driving then no demerit points are given.

I spoke to a police officer when they first implemented them on the 401 and he said they were calibrated to pick off people going in excess of 120. If the new ones are the same then all you have to do is stay below that.
 
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Goober Mcfly

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I remember '94. I remember ripping down the 401, keeping up with traffic doing 130-140 km/h. When all of a sudden, brake lights! Slow down to 105 km/h, go past the stupid white Astrovan parked on the shoulder, and as soon as your past it, accelerate back up to 130-140 km/h.

IMO photo-radar was a safety hazard. People would jump on the brakes as soon as they saw a van.

Stupid dumb.....*mutters*
 
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Average Joe said:
On the flip side, because the radar can't detect who's driving then no demerit points are given.

I spoke to a police officer when they first implemented them on the 401 and he said they were calibrated to pick off people going in excess of 120. If the new ones are the same then all you have to do is stay below that.
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That can't be right, i got a huge ticket one week in my company truck on the 401 so i vowed to keep it under 120 from then on only to get a ticket the following week for 113kph. I was always told that they set their camera based on the flow of traffic.

That said, i'm definately no fan of photo law enforcment, but i'm living in Edmonton temporarily where they have red light cameras everywhere and photo radar all over the city and let me tell you, it has completely neutered the vast majority of the drivers here. Forget speeding, most of them drive UNDER the limit.
 
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islandman4567

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how do you dispute the ticket ? who remembers how fast they were going last month on the 401 .

The one big difference when a cop gives you a ticket is that you know exactly when and where you received it .

If you don't see the van and a month later you get a ticket by mail . I'll bet that you don't remember if you were speeding or not .

I don't think " your honour, I know I wasn't speeding because I never drive over 100 km/h " will work as a defence.
 
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danmand

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I would welcome photo radar, which is just a tax on driving, i.e. you get zapped a few times a year.
But you get no demerit points, no hassles.
 
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