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X - COPPER lied! ( Speeding ticket question )

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Doctor Zoidburg

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On TV 24 on the program Autoshop, this guy from X - copper said that most police departments do not bother to register their laser or radar devices with the CRTC, and this my be grounds to invalidate your spreeding ticket.
I checked with the CRTC, they told me that they have nothing to do with licencing laser devices for the police department. I do realize that X - coppers bread and butter is made by assisting people that have speeding tickets or traffic infractions and that they are not likely to give out free info. It is another thing to mention this and have people check into matters that they know to be false.
X - Coppers SPs of another sort!
 
This sounds to me like there's a misunderstanding somewhere along the line. Maybe the cop named the wrong institution or maybe you were talking to someone who didn't know what they're talking about.

Maybe the ex-cop truly didn't know wtf he was talking about, but it just seems a little strange that he'd totally make it up.
 
No misunderstanding. I have the program recorded and played it back to make sure I heard it right.
It is not from a ex-cop that I heard this from, it is from X - Copper the organization that helps you fight tickets ( they charge you for this service )
 
The person from the CRTC is correct, the CRTC does not regulate laser devices.

I'm not sure if any single government entity does regulate laser devices in Canada. They have such a wide variety of uses. Laser devices have regulations that they need to comply with, but enforcement is often lacking. If the laser is used in industry, then it is regulated as any other industrial machine. If the laser is used in medicine, then the regulated by Health Canada as any other medical product. If the laser is sold in a consumer product, then consumer regulations apply. Despite potential dangers, lasers aren't regulated very effectively in Canada.

Historically, many of the companies that have used laser containing devices have taken their responsibilities quite seriously. Things didn't change until the Chinese started making cheap laser diodes, product quality control went to pieces, and a slew of inexpensive laser products appeared on the market.
 
My point is that x - copper lied, they are in th business to make money off peoples misfortunes. They are not here to help you, unlesss they make some money.
 
They didn't necessarily lie. They could honestly believe what they said and just been plain wrong.
 
that's not a lie anyways.

the guns aren't registered with the CRTC cause they don't need to be. and, if it can result in grounds to invalidate your spreeding ticket, i'd say, so can the weather, or many other BS reasons to do so...
 
I can help....

Doctor Zoidburg said:
On TV 24 on the program Autoshop, this guy from X - copper said that most police departments do not bother to register their laser or radar devices with the CRTC, and this my be grounds to invalidate your spreeding ticket.
I checked with the CRTC, they told me that they have nothing to do with licencing laser devices for the police department. I do realize that X - coppers bread and butter is made by assisting people that have speeding tickets or traffic infractions and that they are not likely to give out free info. It is another thing to mention this and have people check into matters that they know to be false.
X - Coppers SPs of another sort!
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DR ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzz. Having spent a little time in court myself lately and having many connections with police I can assure you that the lasers are not a device to be challenged. CRTC does not regulate them to the PF

Officers guage or check them at begining and end of shifts all of which is documented in the prosecution notes. If the test step is not in there then it can be challenged as they were negiligent.

Other than the manditory shift checks, the units are calibrated monthly and are not affected by inclines, curves or mobile/oncoming detection.

"I fought the law and the law won! "

I hope this clears things for you.
 
I can see radar devices needing CRTC registration

But not Laser needing CRTC Registry due to the frequency being used however there is a flaw with some Laser sites and wear they are being used. IF you are traveling up or Down a steep Incline and not a flat surface the laser becomes inaccurate, you pass threw a number of laser beams calculating time /distance .If this is pointed at a hill and not a level road the laser beams sent from a signal point are not creating an accurate distance in the time it took for your vehicle to pass threw.
use equpment error as a last resort .
Most X-Copper paralegals suck, I win my tickets on my own more often then not. every time I was over my head and got one of these guys they really didn't do anything but take my money then say there is nothing that could have been done and the only pay if you win policy doesn't apply to this type of traffic ticket BLA BLA BLA.


Doctor Zoidburg said:
On TV 24 on the program Autoshop, this guy from X - copper said that most police departments do not bother to register their laser or radar devices with the CRTC, and this my be grounds to invalidate your spreeding ticket.
I checked with the CRTC, they told me that they have nothing to do with licencing laser devices for the police department. I do realize that X - coppers bread and butter is made by assisting people that have speeding tickets or traffic infractions and that they are not likely to give out free info. It is another thing to mention this and have people check into matters that they know to be false.
X - Coppers SPs of another sort!
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Dutchman41 said:
Other than the manditory shift checks, the units are calibrated monthly and are not affected by inclines, curves or mobile/oncoming detection.
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Having experience in an ISO environment, I believe the key documentation in regards to "arguing" speed related tickets would involve required calibration of the equipment.

If charged with a serious speeding infraction, I would request a copy of the calibration records of the unit in question.

Chances are though, this type of documented procedures are/should (be) performed on a scheduled basis.
 
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