WTF???? Cops and Construction Sites

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OK, so I'm driving around downtown today and I must have passed at least 4 construction sites.
Each site had a cop working at one, standing around doing nothing.

We have daily shootings, cabbies being killed and crack dealers running amok.
Instead of cops going after serious criminals we have them working at construction sites!!

Whats the purpose of having a cop there????
Is he gonna catch the crane if it falls on someone???? :rolleyes:

WTF people????
 
Probably paid duty

I do not know for sure but they probably paid for the cops, probably a safety issue/liability.
 
Paid duty

Most likely the police are on voluntary overtime paid directly by the costruction site . They are there for traffic flow with the trucks and some security.

Boo
 
Toronto police got a tip that Jimmy Hoffa was buried under a road in the GTA. Everyone wants on the detail that looks in new holes, beats doing something else. Either that or they're looking for where the Leaf's buried their hope of ever winning the cup.:D
 
Cops on Pay Duty are charged out at an even higher rate than dancers, although they themselves just get OT pay (the Police Service gets the rest). The rules about when you must have them aren't the clearest bits of bureaucratese, but if you're engaged in some activity—like blocking the sidewalks and street off and on—that might annoy the public and go smoother with a figure of authority around, it's smarter to hire a few such figures (more than two and you must hire a sereant as well) lest an unhired one show up with a, "Hello, hello, hello. What's all this then?"

This has long been known to drug dealers ,saloon owners and funeral directors.
 
They are working a paid duty. They volunteer to come in on their days off and get paid for working overtime.
 
Oldjones is right.
It happened on a work site I was on. We were unloading some heavy equipment/machinery from the curb lane when a cruiser stopped in front.
When "Hello, hello, hello. What's all this then?" as oldjones quotes.
Told us to cease work and wait for his pals to show up and they would kindly help us to make things go smoother. And, oh, we'll send you the bill.

Talk about organized crime?!
 
Diode said:
A cop can clear a total of $100k a year topping up his/her salery.
Good work, if you can get it!

Even for a constable? $100k sounds more like the Chief's salary. And it sounds way too much even if compared to the Solicitor-General or the Minister of Public Safety ...
 
As for cops at construction sites. It has become a real problem (especially for single dwelling units) where thieves break in and steal the site blind.

In one developement one pallet of tile could be worth $100K and never mind the fibreoptic cables, equipment etc. The site down the street from me was broken into 4 times in about 3 weeks....
 
Pretty much standard fixture in U.S. const. sites with motorists violence & shootings with traffic delays around sites.

My 1st time to Boston, 5 Grizzly Adams type getting ready with tirerods to go at it, as Dumptruck took too long to pull into lot.

There's article in the news last year, builders' bottomline affected with missing industrial equipment. Furnaces installed in new homes, bulldozers the size of a house walked off without a trace.
 
DateMasamune said:
Even for a constable? $100k sounds more like the Chief's salary. And it sounds way too much even if compared to the Solicitor-General or the Minister of Public Safety ...

First Class Constable in Toronto makes about $45-48K.
I know a senior constable that makes almost $55k taking as many paid duties as possible.

My point, I guess, is if these guys/girls work them selves to death on their days off, are they still doing quality work, when they are on the job?
 
Pay Duty

pizzaboo said:
Most likely the police are on voluntary overtime paid directly by the costruction site . They are there for traffic flow with the trucks and some security.

Boo

Correct 100%. The construction company pays the police officer directly. He/she is on days off, and the construction company had to clear the request for security with the TPS first. TPS then posts the pay duty, and according to seniority the overtime is assigned.

The popular items are usually Leaf games for these guys, but no matter what it is, they are getting some big OT$$ for doing nothing but standing around in theri uniforms.

No cops are off the street for these jobs.

My brother is a Manager at a construction company and is the guy who deals with the various Police agencies for security/traffic control when they need it at thier project sites.
 
Diode said:
First Class Constable in Toronto makes about $45-48K.
I know a senior constable that makes almost $55k taking as many paid duties as possible.

My point, I guess, is if these guys/girls work them selves to death on their days off, are they still doing quality work, when they are on the job?

Paid suty is not working themselves to death... it is mostly standing around, shooting the shit

Most cops work 4 days and have 4 days of... a lot of time to fill. Some have other jobs.

Many firefighters work similar shifts... and have a second job to fill the time
 
Papi Chulo said:
Paid suty is not working themselves to death... it is mostly standing around, shooting the shit

Most cops work 4 days and have 4 days of... a lot of time to fill. Some have other jobs.

Many firefighters work similar shifts... and have a second job to fill the time

Ok...Then instead of hiring 250 more cops, couldn't we just ask for a bit more work from the ranks...ie OT at no extra pay...just like many of us in private business...
 
Diode said:
Ok...Then instead of hiring 250 more cops, couldn't we just ask for a bit more work from the ranks...ie OT at no extra pay...just like many of us in private business...



Now there you go thinking outside the box. How dare you try to save the taxpayers money. Shame on you, I say we raise taxes and build fancy condos for the homeless.

Sorry about the previous outburst but Mayor Miller just stole my password.
 
LancsLad said:
Now there you go thinking outside the box. How dare you try to save the taxpayers money. Shame on you, I say we raise taxes and build fancy condos for the homeless.

Sorry about the previous outburst but Mayor Miller just stole my password.

He'll steal your ATM card too....Be carefull!
 
Diode said:
Ok...Then instead of hiring 250 more cops, couldn't we just ask for a bit more work from the ranks...ie OT at no extra pay...just like many of us in private business...
Are you suggesting you'd ask a bunch of guys with guns to work for less money than 'we' contracted to give them? The Police Board tried that just a wee while ago. Not a success (almost no support here on TERB)
 
When a site is basicly NON-UNION cops are there during the day to prevent trouble. Union sites have little or no problems with fighting, deliveries and theft.
 
Diode said:
Ok...Then instead of hiring 250 more cops, couldn't we just ask for a bit more work from the ranks...ie OT at no extra pay...just like many of us in private business...

WTF?!? They put their time in and work overtime to make extra cash. Just b/c you don't like the fact that you don't receive OT doesn't mean it should be taken away from other people who earn it. :rolleyes:

That was one of the silliest comments I've heard in a long time.