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World’s Most Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

NotADcotor

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With vaccines less effective against variants and variants more contagious it's rough I tells ya rough.
Need more people to take the vaccine to get the same benefits and they need to be the good ones.

Still helpful though, it would take a mook to use this example and say vaccines do not work.
 
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SchlongConery

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They do not work DUH!

"DUH"

About the most accurate thing you have said on your understanding of COVID.

As for the vaccine working.... I'll take the advice of the global cabal of scientists and Doctors. Not an internet troll that lacks the self-awareness to recognize that he has no critical thinking ability. Not blaming you for not having it. It generally takes a formal education in some field to acquire the tools for critical thinking.

I know you think you are on the right mission by sharing what you think you know will empower others. But you are stone cold, dead wrong. One day, I hope you get the aha moment and are secure enough to admit to yourself you need to change your way of thinking.
 

GameBoy27

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They do not work DUH!
Before you jump to conclusions with another stupid (uninformed) comment, we need more information.

We're told 60% of its adult population has had two shots. What percentage has received just one shot and what percentage have yet to get the first shot. The number of active cases in the nation rose to 1,068 on May 3 from 612 on April 28. What percentage of those cases were people who've had both shots, one shot or have not been vaccinated. Before people start freaking out, those are important statistics.

They've closed schools and canceled sporting activities for two weeks as infections surge. Are they saying it's kids who are getting infected? Again, we need to know.

By April 12, 59% of the doses administered were Sinopharm vaccines and the rest were Covishield, a version of AstraZeneca Plc’s shot made under license in India. There's concern in overall confidence with the Sinopharm vaccine and its ability to prevent the disease. Again, of those 1,068 new cases, were any of them vaccinated? If so, how many shots and with which brand?

They've said there's 1,068 cases. That in itself is almost meaningless unless you know how many of those got really sick, ended up in hospitals, in the ICU and on ventilators. Simple case counts for people who only get the sniffles is almost meaningless. If a thousand people test positive but nobody needs treatment, then I'd say the vaccine is doing its job by keeping people out of the hospital.

We still need more information before we know exactly what's going on here.

Sounds like WHO isn't thrilled with the data provided by Sinopharm. Shocking!

https://www.reuters.com/business/he...e-some-sinopharm-covid-19-vaccine-2021-05-05/
 
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At the same time, Israel has fully vaccinated 56% of its population with Pfizer. As of yesterday, they had 76 new cases and the 7-day average is 69.
 
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NotADcotor

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What's the efficacy after one shot? Like 3%? Compared to some other vaccines in the range of around 70 to 90%?
They say it's effective at preventing but they don't know about side effects but anything out of China is suspect. One doesn't need to be Ben Affleck to know that.

60% Chinese vaccine, 40% AZ. If I remember right they are dealing with the South African variant. Most people who got the vax got 2 shots [but I don't know how recently]

Oddly enough about a third of the cases come from the 60% who got both shots and 2/3 from the 40% that got one or most likely 0 shots.
So even those vaccines seem to be doing pretty good.
I haven't seen anything on severity yet which is supposed to be another advantage of being vaccinated.

Also they seem to be doing the job quite well in Israel, the UK and even the US.

But no, I'll take CM's word for it, vaccines don't work duh. I mean he uses Naturalnews.com as an information source. If that doesn't scream SMRT I don't know what does.
 

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"Other nations that have vaccinated large portions of their populations have seen Covid cases plunge. In the U.K., where 52% of people have a first dose, cases are down 96% from a recent high in January. In Israel, where 60% have had at least one dose, new cases are down 99%."

 

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"Of those cases, 84% are Seychellois and the rest are foreigners, Daniel Lucey, Clinical Professor of Medicine at Dartmouth Geisel School of Medicine, said in a blog post. Just under two thirds of those are either unvaccinated or have only had one dose, and the rest have had two doses, he said.

"While data on genetic sequencing are not yet available for infections in April, the B.1.351 variant, first identified in South Africa late last year, was found in the Seychelles in February, he said. AstraZeneca’s vaccine appeared to be less effective against that variant in a study, and South Africa halted plans to use it.

A comparison between Sinopharm, Covishield, and unvaccinated infected persons” could be done using genetic sequencing and data on the severity of their infections, Lucey said. “Given the widespread international use of these two vaccines there are global implications to what is happening now in the Seychelles.”
 

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Seychelles, the "Indian Ocean archipelago" tourism destination. Guess what's happening in nearby India now.
 

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Loosening restrictions & letting the covidiots & others run free & party like fools without herd immunity achieved and large percentages of the population either unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated & the vaccines of the less effective types, especially against the more dangerous covid VOC there. A recipe for disaster!
 

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Heavily vaccinated Chile has also been seeing a surge in C-19 cases. Though, again, there it's a different vaccine (from China) that is less effective & a different C-19 variant that may be more infectious & deadly. Reportedly Chile has also had people getting lax with mask wearing, etc.

 

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Heavily vaccinated Chile has also been seeing a surge in C-19 cases. Though, again, there it's a different vaccine (from China) that is less effective & a different C-19 variant that may be more infectious & deadly. Reportedly Chile has also had people getting lax with mask wearing, etc.

Didn't Chile have one of the hardest lockdowns implemented? I thought I read that somewhere.
 

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What's the efficacy after one shot? Like 3%? Compared to some other vaccines in the range of around 70 to 90%?
The CoronaVac vaccine developed by Sinovac, a private company, was found to have an efficacy rate of just 50.4% in clinical trials in Brazil.
China recently announced that their vaccine has a very low efficacy which is strange for them to admit.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/12/china/china-vaccine-efficacy-intl-hnk/index.html
"The protection rates of existing vaccines are not high," Gao Fu, director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, told a conference in the southwestern city of Chengdu on Saturday.
"In March, the United Arab Emirates started offering a third dose of a Sinopharm vaccine to residents who failed to generate sufficient antibodies after two shots."
 
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