Woman, teen niece raped, 3-year-old son killed, husband beaten in Mexico carjacking

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European cities with high Muslim immigration.
Question: What were European cities like BEFORE the high Muslim immigration? I don't ever recall Paris having 50,000 security personnel in the streets pre-2001.
 

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Question: Why does Fuji call everybody a racist?
"It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle."...Sun Tzu

Understand this, and you will understand Fuji.

 

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Question: What were European cities like BEFORE the high Muslim immigration? I don't ever recall Paris having 50,000 security personnel in the streets pre-2001.
Pretty much the same as they are now: way, way safer than pretty much every American city.
 

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Question: What were European cities like BEFORE the high Muslim immigration? I don't ever recall Paris having 50,000 security personnel in the streets pre-2001.
My dad was mugged in a French subway station in the early 80s. That's how far back I have to go to think of a person who went to Europe on vacation and got mugged.
 

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Hey genius, he's saying there are savages in Mexico and that hopefully a wall will keep them out of the US.

I dont necessarily agree with what he's saying, but it shouldnt be too hard for someone with even half a brain to figure out the point he was trying to make
Which part do you not agree with the savages, the wall or something else?
 

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My dad was mugged in a French subway station in the early 80s. That's how far back I have to go to think of a person who went to Europe on vacation and got mugged.
My friends back in the late 20th century used to go to Europe to "pop their cherry" before they got married. Never had any incidents and they were hitchhiking and sleeping in weird places. Not sure the youths would do that to-day or in the last 10 years. Europe has changed and not for the better.
 

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My friends back in the late 20th century used to go to Europe to "pop their cherry" before they got married. Never had any incidents and they were hitchhiking and sleeping in weird places. Not sure the youths would do that to-day or in the last 10 years. Europe has changed and not for the better.
There was a successful 2008 film where "two (American) girls are kidnapped by Albanian human traffickers for sexual slavery while traveling in France."
 

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I think you were being racist, intending to slur an entire people based on this incident. Your post disgusts me.

Shall I link horrific crimes in the US? Maybe your think Charles Manson is a good representation of Americans.
I agree with everyone else who said you are an idiot. You are the quintessential democrat. It seems 77k+ posts did little for your IQ, so maybe you should spend less time on the computer. I won't be responding to anymore of your gas-lighting comments, dickhead.

Bull shit fuji,...and you one size fits all racist crap.

There wasn't anything in the DallasLV426's 1st post that was racist.

You dumb ass post here,...is the only one racist.

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Thanks FAST, appreciate all your posts defending my comment.

I think it depends on how valid one incident is as an excuse to build a wall.

That seems to be what the OP is suggesting. That the "bad hombres" are a bunch of marauding rapists and should be kept out with a wall.
Only a moron would assume that I was suggesting all Mexicans are bad hombres. All I meant was that there are some really bad people there, that's all.

I need to ask again. What do these cases have to do with a wall unless the wall is meant to keep Americans from going to Mexico? Is that what you are proposing?
Like Phil already told you, but I'll clarify it again as you don't seem too smart or maybe you just like getting in peoples faces. The wall is supposed to keep these especially bad people out of the US.

These cases all occurred in Mexico. A wall would have accomplished nothing unless it is to keep Americans out of Mexico.
Sigh.

I know you agree with Trump and alot of people do, but I just think hes super negative and evil..
I think hes the reason why so many bad things are happening around the world. He really stirs it up.
But hey, thats just what I think.
You are wrong about this. Trump has been grossly misrepresented by the media, and has never done anything illegal. He is not the reason many bad things are happening, but that's what fuji the leftist media wants you to think. Yes Trump does not always say things in the best way possible, but he isn't like Duterte of the Philippines. And neither has he ever said anything racist. You watch on this thread, anyone why refutes what I just said are just staunch Trump opponents, who will say anything to smear Trump. Much like fuji trying to smear me as a racist from what I said in post #1.

My dad was mugged in a French subway station in the early 80s. That's how far back I have to go to think of a person who went to Europe on vacation and got mugged.
You must be a racist, how dare you make a reference to the French people in this context. Are you saying all Europe is like this?

A fortified wall will help, but it will never keep all the lunatics out.

If OP thinks otherwise, he's deluding himself
No I don't think it will keep all the lunatics out, but it will certainly help deter illegal immigration and border hoppers. If it will help keep out crazy bastards like the criminals who perpetrated the crime I linked to, then all the better.
 

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I agree with everyone else who said you are an idiot. You are the quintessential democrat. It seems 77k+ posts did little for your IQ, so maybe you should spend less time on the computer. I won't be responding to anymore of your gas-lighting comments, dickhead.
Post reported to moderator: insulting other members. This isn't the politics forum and your inability to debate people rationally doesn't entitle you to insult them.
 

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Post reported to moderator: insulting other members. This isn't the politics forum and your inability to debate people rationally doesn't entitle you to insult them.
Thank God I'm not a moderator !

 

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Post reported to moderator: insulting other members. This isn't the politics forum and your inability to debate people rationally doesn't entitle you to insult them.
YA fuji,...we get it,...you like to dish it out,...but go crying to mommy when you get thrown back in your face.

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I love Mexican food. Has anyone here been to Taco Bell?

Funny enough,...the 1st time I ever had a taco,... was when I was in Mexico at a Club Med,...a very long time ago.

Enjoyed ever since.

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http://www.torontosun.com/2017/05/0...r-old-son-killed-husband-beaten-in-carjacking
As you read this, imagine being the husband and having to go through this and the aftermath of trauma.
Terrible thing to have happen. Not allot of additional information available yet, but it appears the 3-year old might have been accidently killed when the window was shot out.

NOT intending to blame the victim, but I would never drive a car in the Mexican countryside these days. The US has many traveler's warnings telling citizens to avoid certain Mexican states (this incident occurred in one), not to drive (accident fraud against Americans is huge in Mexico) and women to travel in large groups only (rape is a big problem). Basically the US gov't is telling people to stay in their resorts and avoid 90% of the country.

When Trump referred to 'bad hombres', this is exactly the sort of SCUM he was talking about. I'm glad he's pushing to build that wall, it's definitely needed. The immigrants who want to follow the proper processes, have always been welcome in our countries.
Trump likes to play loose with the facts as he is doing in this case. Worse, his self-serving rhetoric takes the focus away from the real issues and root causes.

1st. I support the wall for different reasons than Trump states, but the wall itself will have little actual value. Making the wall 40 feet tall, 10 feet deep and 3 feet thick is just foolishness; HLS's current approach of a modest sized see-through "fence" makes much more sense and will cost a lot less. The facts are: >80% of illegal immigrants (whether workers or bad hombres) currently cross the border into the US legally and the wall will in no-way reduce or prevent drug flow as most drugs come under, over or around the wall. Point: what the wall, electronic surveillance and enhanced screening laws will do is allow the Border Guards who are key to everything, to be used more effectively in screening applicants and proactive actions to prevent the flow of drugs. <-- I think Congress already realizes this, thus they are manipulating Trump's funding into a simpler wall and more guards.

2nd. The Mexicans provide a much needed labour source - so improve the process and get these people back to work in jobs Americans don't want (i.e. agriculture). I agree with better screening, better monitoring. I'm not opposed to a registry and spot-checks for all visiting and/or work visa foreigners in the US. Criminals don't get in period. Commit a crime, you never get back in. Current illegals need to be vetted and either granted permission to stay (if they add value to the US), or they must leave. <-- on these issues I agree with Trump, although he needs to be humane/reasonable for those that that have been positively contributing to the US.

3rd. No doubt that violent crime in Mexico is out of control. But let's not allow Trump to manipulate the statistics to tell a false story. Violent crime is a huge problem in the US too. Mexico is ahead in murders, but the US is ahead in rapes, muggings and beatings. That said, I'm guessing a lot of Mexican crime goes unreported. Point: there are allot of "bad hombres" in the US too.

4th. Why is everyone ignoring the root cause? The REAL problem is the out-of-control drug usage in the US. 90%+ of the reported Mexican crime, cartels, wall cost, Boarder guards, Coast guard, etc. can ALL be traced back to the drug trade which is root cause made in the USA. Even if the wall/guards secure the southern border, the drug supply chain will simply find an alternative route. Point: Time for the US to admit their problem and address root causes.
 

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No doubt the per capita murder rate in Mexico is much higher than in the US, but to be able to UNDERSTAND these statistics, we would need to know; Who is killing who, Why and What are the root causes.

If we eliminate all crime directly related to the US drug trade, I believe the crime rates in Mexico and Central America would drop very significantly. The countries are still corrupt, poverty/unemployment/population is still a big problem, so there's still going to be significant crime ......

..... but why isn't the POTUS talking about the root problem and what he is going to do about that? If indeed the wall and border guards make a dent in the drug flow, things are only going to get more desperate and violent on BOTH sides of the border.
 

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YA fuji,...we get it,...you like to dish it out,...but go crying to mommy when you get thrown back in your face.

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Except I don't insult people like that. I may be harsh in some of my comments but I comment on what someone said. I don't call people stupid, dickhead, etc.

It's immature, childish, and lowers the quality of the discussion.

Fact is that Dallas has no defence to the charge that his comment is fundamentally racist so he has degenerated into schoolyard name calling.
 

malata

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Funny enough,...the 1st time I ever had a taco,... was when I was in Mexico at a Club Med,...a very long time ago.

Enjoyed ever since.

FAST
Unfortunately, all Taco Bell locations, had to close shop in Mexico on January 2010 due to low patronage. Who would have thought, the Americanized Taco, would ever taste as good as the authentic Mexican Taco.

BTW; I really like this Chihuahua...I hope it doesn't have the same fate, as those CHIPMUNKS.:wink:

 

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Except I don't insult people like that. I may be harsh in some of my comments but I comment on what someone said. I don't call people stupid, dickhead, etc.

It's immature, childish, and lowers the quality of the discussion.

Fact is that Dallas has no defence to the charge that his comment is fundamentally racist so he has degenerated into schoolyard name calling.
And yet,...you just called him a racist,...again,...THAT is an insult,...get that through your thick skull,...just because you call some one a racist,...doesn't make it any less an insult.

Until you retract it,...you are the one who initiated the insulting,...as usual.

FAST
 
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