This is pathetic.. I noticed even OUR health care here is going down hill.. When my grandma was in the hospital, there was a woman next to me in the bed.. She was in her 90s, and it seemed like the nurses were just ignoring her. She had a diaper on, just incase, not for the purpose of EVERYTIME she had to go, she was going to in the diaper.. One nurse came in, and said "Don't worry, you can go, you do have a diaper on." It was like.. Let this woman die with SOME dignity left. I was disgusted!
Woman dies in waiting room hospital after hour on the floor.(Video)
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Did you discuss this wih her family???Stephi3 said:This is pathetic.. I noticed even OUR health care here is going down hill.. When my grandma was in the hospital, there was a woman next to me in the bed.. She was in her 90s, and it seemed like the nurses were just ignoring her. She had a diaper on, just incase, not for the purpose of EVERYTIME she had to go, she was going to in the diaper.. One nurse came in, and said "Don't worry, you can go, you do have a diaper on." It was like.. Let this woman die with SOME dignity left. I was disgusted!
Start by shooting people like Papasmerf, that are voting against a universalAngéliqueforyou said:Definitely, some changes need to be made to the system. That is all I can say personally and legally. I have to leave it like that.
health care system.
I've nothing against a working health care plan.....Why do you lump people into catorgies??danmand said:Start by shooting people like Papasmerf, that are voting against a universal
health care system.
OK, sir, if you are in favour of universal health care in the US, I apologize for my post.papasmerf said:I've nothing against a working health care plan.....Why do you lump people into catorgies??
thje problem I have with universal health care is the loss of servicesdanmand said:OK, sir, if you are in favour of universal health care in the US, I apologize for my post.
ER's are supposed to follow triage protocols. At least some nurse should have categorized and prioritized her. If they didn't see her because there were other people with higher priority conditions then that's "fine" (maybe a funding problem, but not the hospital staff's fault).
If they didn't even bother to determine her priority then they are simply derelict in their duties.
For the record unconcious and face down is not as critical as unconcious on your back. Someone unconcious on their back may vomit and then choke on their own vomit. Someone who is unconcious and face down will maintain a clear airway if they vomit.
So she downgraded herself from "breathing emergency" to "circulatory emergency" by falling face down (people who are having heart attacks have to wait until people who are choking have been dealt with.)
Of course if as people say the records show that the hospital records are full of lies... well...
If they didn't even bother to determine her priority then they are simply derelict in their duties.
For the record unconcious and face down is not as critical as unconcious on your back. Someone unconcious on their back may vomit and then choke on their own vomit. Someone who is unconcious and face down will maintain a clear airway if they vomit.
So she downgraded herself from "breathing emergency" to "circulatory emergency" by falling face down (people who are having heart attacks have to wait until people who are choking have been dealt with.)
Of course if as people say the records show that the hospital records are full of lies... well...
Turns out there was plenty ...
that could have been done:
By DAVID B. CARUSO, Associated Press Writer
57 minutes ago
NEW YORK - A woman who died unnoticed on a hospital floor in a scene recorded by security cameras was killed by blood clots caused by a long period of physical inactivity, according to the city's medical examiner.
Esmin Green, 49, had been sitting in a waiting room at the city-owned Kings County Hospital Center for nearly 24 hours when she collapsed from her chair and slowly died on June 19.
She lay on the floor at the Brooklyn hospital for an hour before a nurse finally checked her pulse.
After an autopsy and weeks of tests, the medical examiner's office concluded Friday that Green was killed by pulmonary thromboemboli, blood clots that form in the legs and travel through the bloodstream to the lungs.
The medical examiner said the clots were due to "deep venous thrombosis of lower extremities due to physical inactivity," complicating an underlying psychological illness: chronic paranoid schizophrenia.
An attorney for Green's family, Sanford Rubenstein, said the finding suggested that the hours she sat in the hospital played a role in her death.
"The length of time that she spent in the emergency room ... very well may have contributed to her death," he said. "Physical inactivity was obviously a significant contributing factor."
The city Health and Hospitals Corp., which owns the hospital, had no immediate comment Friday.
HHC officials have previously expressed outrage at the way Green was treated. Six employees lost their jobs over the incident, even before it became public.
Green died while awaiting care in the hospital's psychiatric emergency room. EMS workers had brought her to the center on the morning of June 18. The hospital said she was suffering from agitation and psychosis and was involuntarily admitted after refusing medical review.
The emergency room is chronically overcrowded, and Green waited overnight for further care.
A recording of her death prompted national outrage when it became public last week.
After she collapsed, neither fellow patients nor the hospital's staff moved to help her, even as she thrashed her legs on the floor and tried to get up.
Two security guards and a member of the hospital's medical staff can be seen on the video, stopping to look at Green briefly before walking away. She stopped moving about 30 minutes after falling and was dead when a nurse finally examined her another 30 minutes after that.
HHC immediately reported the death to the state and voluntarily turned over the security records to lawyers already suing the city over alleged patient neglect at the hospital.
Rubenstein said that had Green been carefully attended to when she arrived at the emergency room, doctors might have noticed swelling in her legs and taken action.
People known to be at risk from deep vein thrombosis are often given anticoagulation drugs or compression stockings, which can keep clots from forming, and advised not to sit for hours at a time.
The condition, however, is not always easy to detect. The National Heart Lung and Blood Institute said about half of the people with deep vein thrombosis have no symptoms at all.
Airlines often advise passengers on very long flights to stroll the aisle, periodically, to prevent blood clots.
that could have been done:
By DAVID B. CARUSO, Associated Press Writer
57 minutes ago
NEW YORK - A woman who died unnoticed on a hospital floor in a scene recorded by security cameras was killed by blood clots caused by a long period of physical inactivity, according to the city's medical examiner.
Esmin Green, 49, had been sitting in a waiting room at the city-owned Kings County Hospital Center for nearly 24 hours when she collapsed from her chair and slowly died on June 19.
She lay on the floor at the Brooklyn hospital for an hour before a nurse finally checked her pulse.
After an autopsy and weeks of tests, the medical examiner's office concluded Friday that Green was killed by pulmonary thromboemboli, blood clots that form in the legs and travel through the bloodstream to the lungs.
The medical examiner said the clots were due to "deep venous thrombosis of lower extremities due to physical inactivity," complicating an underlying psychological illness: chronic paranoid schizophrenia.
An attorney for Green's family, Sanford Rubenstein, said the finding suggested that the hours she sat in the hospital played a role in her death.
"The length of time that she spent in the emergency room ... very well may have contributed to her death," he said. "Physical inactivity was obviously a significant contributing factor."
The city Health and Hospitals Corp., which owns the hospital, had no immediate comment Friday.
HHC officials have previously expressed outrage at the way Green was treated. Six employees lost their jobs over the incident, even before it became public.
Green died while awaiting care in the hospital's psychiatric emergency room. EMS workers had brought her to the center on the morning of June 18. The hospital said she was suffering from agitation and psychosis and was involuntarily admitted after refusing medical review.
The emergency room is chronically overcrowded, and Green waited overnight for further care.
A recording of her death prompted national outrage when it became public last week.
After she collapsed, neither fellow patients nor the hospital's staff moved to help her, even as she thrashed her legs on the floor and tried to get up.
Two security guards and a member of the hospital's medical staff can be seen on the video, stopping to look at Green briefly before walking away. She stopped moving about 30 minutes after falling and was dead when a nurse finally examined her another 30 minutes after that.
HHC immediately reported the death to the state and voluntarily turned over the security records to lawyers already suing the city over alleged patient neglect at the hospital.
Rubenstein said that had Green been carefully attended to when she arrived at the emergency room, doctors might have noticed swelling in her legs and taken action.
People known to be at risk from deep vein thrombosis are often given anticoagulation drugs or compression stockings, which can keep clots from forming, and advised not to sit for hours at a time.
The condition, however, is not always easy to detect. The National Heart Lung and Blood Institute said about half of the people with deep vein thrombosis have no symptoms at all.
Airlines often advise passengers on very long flights to stroll the aisle, periodically, to prevent blood clots.
y2kmark said:that could have been done:
By DAVID B. CARUSO, Associated Press Writer
57 minutes ago
NEW YORK - A woman who died unnoticed on a hospital floor in a scene recorded by security cameras was killed by blood clots caused by a long period of physical inactivity, according to the city's medical examiner.
Esmin Green, 49, had been sitting in a waiting room at the city-owned Kings County Hospital Center for nearly 24 hours when she collapsed from her chair and slowly died on June 19.
She lay on the floor at the Brooklyn hospital for an hour before a nurse finally checked her pulse.
After an autopsy and weeks of tests, the medical examiner's office concluded Friday that Green was killed by pulmonary thromboemboli, blood clots that form in the legs and travel through the bloodstream to the lungs.
The medical examiner said the clots were due to "deep venous thrombosis of lower extremities due to physical inactivity," complicating an underlying psychological illness: chronic paranoid schizophrenia.
An attorney for Green's family, Sanford Rubenstein, said the finding suggested that the hours she sat in the hospital played a role in her death.
"The length of time that she spent in the emergency room ... very well may have contributed to her death," he said. "Physical inactivity was obviously a significant contributing factor."
The city Health and Hospitals Corp., which owns the hospital, had no immediate comment Friday.
HHC officials have previously expressed outrage at the way Green was treated. Six employees lost their jobs over the incident, even before it became public.
Green died while awaiting care in the hospital's psychiatric emergency room. EMS workers had brought her to the center on the morning of June 18. The hospital said she was suffering from agitation and psychosis and was involuntarily admitted after refusing medical review.
The emergency room is chronically overcrowded, and Green waited overnight for further care.
A recording of her death prompted national outrage when it became public last week.
After she collapsed, neither fellow patients nor the hospital's staff moved to help her, even as she thrashed her legs on the floor and tried to get up.
Two security guards and a member of the hospital's medical staff can be seen on the video, stopping to look at Green briefly before walking away. She stopped moving about 30 minutes after falling and was dead when a nurse finally examined her another 30 minutes after that.
HHC immediately reported the death to the state and voluntarily turned over the security records to lawyers already suing the city over alleged patient neglect at the hospital.
Rubenstein said that had Green been carefully attended to when she arrived at the emergency room, doctors might have noticed swelling in her legs and taken action.
People known to be at risk from deep vein thrombosis are often given anticoagulation drugs or compression stockings, which can keep clots from forming, and advised not to sit for hours at a time.
The condition, however, is not always easy to detect. The National Heart Lung and Blood Institute said about half of the people with deep vein thrombosis have no symptoms at all.
Airlines often advise passengers on very long flights to stroll the aisle, periodically, to prevent blood clots.
This further proves they lied when they said they seen her getting up to go to the washroom on the false papers they tried to create. But, of course we already knew this was a lie by the times recorded on the camera conflicting with what they had written down to try to cover up.
