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Woman Allegedly Fired for Deleting App That Let Her Boss Track Her Movements 24/7

pusher69

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All she had to do was:
1. Leave the work phone at the office after work.
2. Leave it at home and not take it outside during off hours.

So simple...yet so hard to grasp for some people.
 

Aardvark154

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The article I originally read stated that it was a company-owned phone
I've read and heard the same thing several times, it was a Company Owned cell phone.

All she had to do was follow Pusher's common sense advice.

All she had to do was:
1. Leave the work phone at the office after work.
2. Leave it at home and not take it outside during off hours.

So simple...yet so hard to grasp for some people.
 

benstt

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I've read and heard the same thing several times, it was a Company Owned cell phone.

All she had to do was follow Pusher's common sense advice.
If they give you a phone, there is often the expectation that you carry it and be accessible after hours.
 

basketcase

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All she had to do was:
1. Leave the work phone at the office after work.
2. Leave it at home and not take it outside during off hours.

So simple...yet so hard to grasp for some people.
If she was a traveling for sales, it is highly possible that she wasn't ending every day at the office.

Unless she was required to keep the phone on and with her as part of her job, just turn the damn thing off at the end of the day.
 

fuji

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Turning it off would seem like the obvious thing to do BUT sales people often want to be available to their biggest clients at all hours. You don't want to turn your phone off at 5pm and then miss a call from your west coast customer at 7pm.

The tracking software is pretty offensive really. There are better ways to measure sales performance, like quarterly bookings.
 

oldjones

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If they give you a phone, there is often the expectation that you carry it and be accessible after hours.
All sorts of people have expectations, and the frequently differ, which is why we make contracts, whether verbal or written. The trouble here seems to be that she and her employer left things at the unspoken expectations stage until it was too late. Now they need a Court to sort it out for them.
 

oldjones

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My company has similar software on their cell phones and they specifically state you are not permitted to disable GPS. Leaving phone at work is not an option for many of us who are expected to be accessible off hours.
And we trust that you and the company came to a mutually satisfactory agreement about how you are to be compensated for working in what many would call your own time. If there was no agreement, some might say that's the employer 'extorting' work without paying for it.
 

nottyboi

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My company has similar software on their cell phones and they specifically state you are not permitted to disable GPS. Leaving phone at work is not an option for many of us who are expected to be accessible off hours.
Disable mobile data then...just add a widget to turn it off when you are on personal time.
 

oldjones

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Disable mobile data then...just add a widget to turn it off when you are on personal time.
If the company really wants you on 24 hour call, that's a sure way to get you the conference with the boss that the two of you should have had when terms of employment were discussed.
 

GPIDEAL

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Exactly. Hope she wins, bragging that he is spying on her and actually divulging what he knows she's done is absolutely creepy and inappropriate for an employer.
He shouldn't have bragged, but if it was a company-supplied phone, it might be his business to know if she's speeding while working for the company, or to know her whereabouts during business hours.

(We fired a driver for doing side jobs on company time with our truck by tracking his company-supplied cell phone's location via GPS).
 
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