Will we ever find a cure for Cancer?
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I mean pharmaceutical companies make over 300b just in north america every year why would they want to cure disease? I believe there is a cure and it involves fresh fruit and vegetables.
I agree. There are competing pharmaceutical companies. If one has the cure, they will patent it in exchange for exclusive distribution or licensing, and make gazillions for years.I take Milk Thistle, Ester C, Omega3 as part of my daily regimen. Haven't had a cold or flu bug since taking them regularly about 2 years ago. Alright now I've jinxed myself
I hear from many conspiracy theorists that the cure for cancer exists but is being withheld because it would cost the pharmaceutical industry billions of dollars per year. To me that doesn't make sense because if a company has the cure, they can patent it and are golden. I believe in the goodness of people, all it takes is one scientist to come out and say we have the cure. I don't think it exists and frankly I don't think it ever will. The human body is the most complex matter ever produced.
Drug companies need protection with their patents because they need to ensure a profit to recoup the millions spent on research, some of which is never recovered. An incentive is required to take such risks.
However, I'm also suspicious of the control that drug companies have as lobbyists to thwart promotion of natural remedies.
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As I said, "I don't know about that" because while you may be right, others have pointed out that some societies have less cancers than others. All I know is that family members live to a very old age before succumbing.
Hrmm...well, that sort of flies in the face of history. Polio is gone, smallpox is gone, etc.No they wont put out the cure that they have for Cancer, Aids and other diseases anytime soon. The money to made is in the research not the cure so don't expect any cures. Mayyyybe in the years to come they'll throw us a bone and release a way to live with it (meds 24/7) but they'll keep the actual cure under wraps. They don't cure shit
The vaccine for Polio was released in 1955.
"Vaccines do not guarantee complete protection from a disease" Notice they always use the term vaccine and not cure, hmm?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine
The first vaccine for smallpox was in 1796
"It is unknown how long past vaccinations stay effective. People who received the vaccine many years ago may no longer be fully protected against the virus"
Treatment "If athe smallpox vaccine is given within 1-4 days after a person is exposed to the disease, it may prevent illness or make the illness less severe. Once symptoms have started, treatment is limited. There is no drug specifically for treating smallpox. Sometimes antibiotics are given for infections that may occur in people who have smallpox. Taking antibodies against a disease similar to smallpox (vaccinia immune globulin) may help shorten the duration of the disease"
http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/smallpox/overview.html
All they do is "help us to live with these diseases" like I said..... Cure, what cure?
Lol... Come on, they don't even have a cure for a common cold, flu, herpes or an average headache BUT theres rows and rows of crap to "help us live with it" in Shopper Drug Mart. Have you noticed how big drug stores have gotten over the last 20 years, especially the drug, meds section?? They just want us to keep coming back.. Just like a common drug dealer on the street. Keep everyone on the meds leash for life. Alot of people take a handfull or two of pills everyday just to cope.
So, how much $ is generated into cancer research each year? I read that since significant research agencies have started the total is around 4 Trillion dollars.
I really, really wish there was a cure for cancer. I recently know of 5 close friends that within the last 2 months that were diagnosed with forms of it, throat, breast, lung and 2 with prostate. It seems like more and more people are facing it.
A lot of paranoia here. The idea that there is a cure for "cancer" is farcical an naiive. Cancer is not one disease. Even one type of cancer (eg breast cancer) is not one disease. Sure there are commonalities amongst all types (unregulated cell growth, spread of the cancer to other sites) but there are thousands of ways this can happen, therefore thousands of potential "cures" - but finding them is super complex, and super expensive. Just the lab costs in a molecular biology researchers lab reach tens of thousands a year, and the cost of his staffs salaries ranges into the hundreds. This is just for one hypothetical lab studying one gene!!!
As for the idea that scientists and even big pharma have a hidden agenda to suppress useful treatments for any disease is ridiculous. You obviously don't know the doctors and scientists that do this kind of work. It Takes immense personal dedication, and sacrifice. And to be honest you would be richer as a banker on bay street. As for pharma, they very well know that saving people from one disease will make them live longer, and profit aside, most proe in the pharmaceutical industry really do believe in improving human health. But in terms of "lost profits, they really have nothing to fear, because if we live longer, we just have more opportunity to get other chronic diseases!
I do agree though that there is a bias toward funding studies and development of "patentable"treatments nyhat is because of two factors none the immense cost of any kind of medical research, from the lab to the clnic trial and two, pharmas pockets are a lot deeper than our gov/ and charitable institutions when it comes to funding research b
As for the idea that scientists and even big pharma have a hidden agenda to suppress useful treatments for any disease is ridiculous. You obviously don't know the doctors and scientists that do this kind of work. It Takes immense personal dedication, and sacrifice. And to be honest you would be richer as a banker on bay street. As for pharma, they very well know that saving people from one disease will make them live longer, and profit aside, most proe in the pharmaceutical industry really do believe in improving human health. But in terms of "lost profits, they really have nothing to fear, because if we live longer, we just have more opportunity to get other chronic diseases!
I do agree though that there is a bias toward funding studies and development of "patentable"treatments nyhat is because of two factors none the immense cost of any kind of medical research, from the lab to the clnic trial and two, pharmas pockets are a lot deeper than our gov/ and charitable institutions when it comes to funding research b
There are so many posts here about 'A' cure for cancer. There so many different types of cancers there is little chance of being one cure, but more like a number of different cures or procedures for various ones that may or may not have commonalities. There are number of cancers that years ago were very common and now not so because of treatment/cures, but there is yet no one magic bullet to kill them all.
I believe some forms of leukemia are now more treatable. Other than that I wonder
what cancers those cures you referred to can fix? In the case of colorectal cancer
the procedures to remove the patient's anus, rectum or some other parts of the colon
might have undergone significant advancement which (along with widespread applications
of colonoscopy) explains the improving mortality rate of the cancers of bowel in general.
But I am of the view that very few if any of the cures and treatments can do much to improve
the quality of lives of cancer survivors.
I'm not sure 'fixed' is the correct words, but even the high profile breast cancer is more survivable that in the past with the imporovements in treatment using various chemo therapy, radiation, and surgery. A lot of that has to do with the research and money that has gone into it. It's no longer the death sentence it was. Prostate cancer is also going in that direction. I'm a strong believer in early detection as it has saved a few family members and lack of it has caused a couple their early deaths. By all accounts, based on family history and work profile, I'm at moderate/high risk but so far, 2/3(?) of the way through my life's journey, there is no sign. Go figure.
That's great and all but there hasn't been a single case of smallpox anywhere in the world since 1978.
Look at the comparative stats of cancer between cultures and pre vs post ww2.
Stop eating meat, sugar, carbs, fat (except for omega3), salt, dairy, juice.
Eat oatmeal with fruit and unsweetened almond milk every day. Fruit, vegetables, coconut oil, cold water fish. All organic production.
Stop eating meat, sugar, carbs, fat (except for omega3), salt, dairy, juice.
Eat oatmeal with fruit and unsweetened almond milk every day. Fruit, vegetables, coconut oil, cold water fish. All organic production.
We may never find a cure (who knows?) but we'll probably get VERY good at treating the symptoms. It just takes time. And by then there will be something else killing us so it's all a matter of perspective. Enjoy the time you have...
...or before WWII (and in countries with a more basic infrastructure) people died younger so they didn't live long enough to die of cancer. People before WWII died before they turned 60. They died of polio, smallpox, the Spanish Flu, etc. Antibiotics either weren't invented yet or were in such small amounts that they were effectively non-existant. Does our modern society contribute to our cancer rates? Some, sure. But in the end, it's because we're otherwise living longer and healthier that cancer is rising as a killer. Understand what cancer actually *is* (ie- transcription error when our genetic code is copied for the septillionth time), and it stops being some hocus-pocus fear generator.sidebanger said:
Cancer is waiting for the infinite number of chimps banging on the infinite number of typewriters to churn out the works of William Shakespeare. It will eventually happen. You can do things to increase or to lessen the risk and the frequency (hint: among other things fat people have more cells in their body. More cells = more chance one will have the wrong transcription error), but if you manage to not let anything else kill you (including old age), cancer WILL happen.
For a modern society with a pretty good educational system, North Americans seem to have a hard time grasping the reality of cancer.
If you don't re-use regular plastic water bottles and keep them out of direct sunlight, the material won't break down and be a carcinogenic risk. Re-usable plastic bottles advertise that they omit the carcinogen BHT that can migrate to contents.
You can take Vivimind for brain health but it's about $90 a month. Or as a pharmacist said to me, eat 3-4 almonds a day for the same effect.
Well, people do survive pancreatic cancer. But we're talking about low, low percentages. The 5-year survival rate for pancreatic cancer is around 6%. Just because you have a lot of money or made a funny Chippendales skit with Chris Farley doesn't mean you'll be in that 6%.
