Will Toronto be Hit??

[The Shake]

Being more intelligent I would say that you have no idea...

Retard

Peace,
G
-Terbs Youngest Hobbiest

Really?

Then how about you provide us with an intelligent comparative analysis of democracy in Iran and Saudi Arabia? Can you provide any evidence that a reformer such as Khatemi could ever be elected in Saudi Arabia?

 

[The Shake]

One, why would they attack Canada? We never fought in the war against terrorism.

We certainly did - and are. Ever heard of a place called Afghanistan?

Two, why would they want to wreck a place like Toronto that's been such a welcoming home to so many terrorists?

Can you provide some actual evidence of such, as opposed to Fox News jingoism?

 

[Choron]

I say bring it on,have lived rather a dull and uneventfull existance. QUOTE]

I would say bring it on too, but I havn't lived a dull and uneventful existance... Also... IT might actually incite some nationalism in our country... WE HAVE NONE aside from hockey... none of us are proud of our military... The only thing we have to be proud of is our contribution in WW1 and WW2... Since then our military has been a joke and for no reason...

Peace
G
-Terbs Youngest Hobbiest

 

[Choron]

Canada doesnt use automatic weapons... All assault rifles are engaged in bursts of 3 ( automatically set by military)...

 

[Choron]

Really?

Then how about you provide us with an intelligent comparative analysis of democracy in Iran and Saudi Arabia? Can you provide any evidence that a reformer such as Khatemi could ever be elected in Saudi Arabia?

Im not ingnorant and would not require Saudi Arabia to be a democracy... Why would you think so? You have no power to change such things anyway... Its not the point of my argument that Khatemi could be elected but that there are MUCH bigger problems than Saudi Arabia... Id like you to note also that Saudis actively engage in combat of terrorism... Perhaps you are uninformed, im not sure so allow me to inform you... Recently(the last two weeks) they hunted down and killed the head of Al Queda in Saudi Arabia in the mountains of their own country...

 

[Choron]

You have not shown any intellect or understanding of the issues. You flail about in your soiled diapers squaking like the intellectual infant you are.

You can kindly go fuck yourself ... thanks champ

 

[The Shake]

Im not ingnorant and would not require Saudi Arabia to be a democracy... Why would you think so? You have no power to change such things anyway... Its not the point of my argument that Khatemi could be elected but that there are MUCH bigger problems than Saudi Arabia...

Your exact quote was as follows:

Iran is far and above more opressive than Saudi Arabia anyway... They live back in the stonage (ex. mud huts)

You've also claimed to be intelligent.

Please provide an intelligent analysis of the relative level of oppression in Saudi Arabia versus Iran. Personally, I've always considered the lack of fundamental democratic rights to be a decent measure of oppression, however if you'd prefer to focus on other fundamental freedoms, please go ahead.

Anyway, the rest of us anxiously await a reasonable demonstration of said intelligence.

Id like you to note also that Saudis actively engage in combat of terrorism... Perhaps you are uninformed, im not sure so allow me to inform you... Recently(the last two weeks) they hunted down and killed the head of Al Queda in Saudi Arabia in the mountains of their own country...

Indeed. Because he was a threat to the Saudi Royal Family. The Mullahs in Iran "combat" people who are a threat to their power too. What's your point?

 

[Bud Plug]

We certainly did - and are. Ever heard of a place called Afghanistan?

Ah Shake, don't ever change!

If you can fight with a mop, I guess we were/are fighting in Afghanistan. But I think the Canadian government position was not that we are fighting terrorism, but rather we are there as a result of the Taliban's human rights abuses (genocide, etc.).

Can you provide some actual evidence of such, as opposed to Fox News jingoism?

Do you doubt this, or are you just interested in poring over the details? If you don't really doubt the proposition, you can do your own e-research for the details.

 

[Choron]

Iran doesnt feel that terrorism is a threat to their power... Much like the Taliban (except on a much larger scale)..

 

[The Shake]

But I think the Canadian government position was not that we are fighting terrorism, but rather we are there as a result of the Taliban's human rights abuses (genocide, etc.).

Nope. We clearly stated that our presence there was as part of a coalition fighting the "War on Terror". That's why Bin Laden specifically listed Canada as one of the six target countries. Why is there any confusion about this?

Do you doubt this, or are you just interested in poring over the details? If you don't really doubt the proposition, you can do your own e-research for the details.

There is no reasonable evidence that Canada has been any more (or less) hospitable to terrorists than the United States, or the UK for that matter. Its simple jingoism to suggest otherwise.

 

[The Shake]

Iran doesnt feel that terrorism is a threat to their power... Much like the Taliban (except on a much larger scale)..

Wow, you are a stupendously dumb person, aren't you?

What about MEK-People's Mujahideen or the NCRI? Can you seriously argue that they do not represent a threat to the Mullahs? MEK has been declared a FTO by the US Government!!!!!

You really don't have the first clue what you're talking about.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Canada doesnt use automatic weapons... All assault rifles are engaged in bursts of 3 ( automatically set by military)...

All military forces including Canada use automatic weapons, ever hear of machine guns? That 3 burst setting is there for increased accuracy, the US military uses it also but it can be easily turned to full auto when needed.

 

[Bud Plug]

Nope. We clearly stated that our presence there was as part of a coalition fighting the "War on Terror". That's why Bin Laden specifically listed Canada as one of the six target countries. Why is there any confusion about this?

Read this:

http://www.liberal.ca/news_e.aspx?type=news&news=982

Martin is clearly playing up the humanitarian angle and downplaying the "war against terrorism" justification.

Also, have a look at Paul Martin's linkage of Canada's presence in Afghanistan to NATO and the human rights objectives of NATO (again, downplaying security for security's sake):

http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news.asp?id=425

And this:

http://www.theglobalist.com/DBWeb/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=3913

I'm sure I could produce many other examples.

 

[The Shake]

I'm sure I could produce many other examples.

Well, the military would beg to differ:

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=1593

The mission of ISAF is to help maintain security in Kabul and the surrounding areas so the Government of Afghanistan and UN agencies can function. It also includes liaison with political, social and religious leaders to ensure that ISAF operations appropriately respect religious, ethnic and cultural sensitivities in Afghanistan.

The Canadian government's overarching goal in contributing to ISAF is to prevent Afghanistan from relapsing into a failed state that provides a safe haven for terrorists and terrorist organizations. Canada remains committed to the campaign against terrorism and, with our allies, will make a major contribution to the stabilization and reconstruction of Afghanistan. Canada aims to help Afghanistan become the following:

* A stable nation that is no longer a haven for terrorism;
* A country that meets the needs of its people; and
* A fully integrated part of the international community.

Afghanistan's full and sustained recovery is the key to eliminating the threat of terrorism and achieving greater international security and stability. The reconstruction and rehabilitation of Afghanistan will require a considerable and sustained commitment over the long term, and Canada is doing its part with its allies.

Every effort is being made in the planning and execution of this mission to ensure that our people will be able to do what we ask of them safely and effectively in this high-risk environment. The government is using the skills and abilities for which Canadians are known to assist in the stabilization and reconstruction of Afghanistan.

 

[someone]

One, why would they attack Canada? We never fought in the war against terrorism.

We did send troops to Afghanistan. Unlike the U.S., UK and Australia we did not even get side tracked with Iraq which had nothing to do with the war against terrorism.

 

[Choron]

Canadians do not use automatic rifles... My god dont argue with me about this, trust me i know... As I perviously said, for recoil reasons the rifles are restricted to a 3-burst... or single shot take your pick...

 

[Choron]

M-16's are restricted to a 3 round FULLY AUTOMATIC burst to save ammunition, nothing more. The US military found that soldiers tend to "squirt" at nothing most of the time, wasting ammunition. A 3 round burst makes them actually aim the rifle and wastes less ammunition.

However, if you take a look at what the officers in the US and the ETF carry, I think you will find an HK weapon that is fully automatic.

Of course, all this chatter about the carbines carried by police services is a distraction from the original point.

Carbines are guns of the 80's and 70's the burst is automatic... but not fully automatic... The definition of fully automatic would be the clip being used( or at least the ability to do so) as opposed to a 3round restriction...

 

[jk_flip_flop]

My god dont argue with me about this, trust me i know.....HA HA HA

Canadians do not use automatic rifles... My god dont argue with me about this, trust me i know... As I perviously said, for recoil reasons the rifles are restricted to a 3-burst... or single shot take your pick...

What in the F#$%K are you talking about.
You have NO clue!!!

 

[happygrump]

... but back to the point...

Toronto may be hit, but a better target for a terrorist would probably be a gas plant in Alberta, or the pipeline that brings natural gas from the fields in Alberta to the hub outside of Chicago. There would be less loss of life - maybe even none - but the effect on the North American economy would be dramatic.

 

[Esco!]

I have just one question, what if these attacks gradually escalate worldwide and then progress from IED's to weapons of mass destruction causing millions of death.
Mustard, Anthrax and dirty bombs are easy to produce.

How much of this shit are we supposed to put up with????

Why should 99% of the population be terrified because of 1% of the population???
Dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few???