Ok didn't know?? thanx for the update and the spelling correction.....will think of someone else for him to shack up with.....Escohort said:
Will Scott Peterson Live or Die?
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First off, how does one kill an unborn child?
I thought it was a clump of cells called a foetus and not alive until its outside of the womb.
Second off, even with all the circumstantial evidence involved, if he really did his wife, yes, he deserves the death penalty.
I just wish that Clara Harris, Andrea Yates and Susan Smith would end up getting that as well.
I thought it was a clump of cells called a foetus and not alive until its outside of the womb.
Second off, even with all the circumstantial evidence involved, if he really did his wife, yes, he deserves the death penalty.
I just wish that Clara Harris, Andrea Yates and Susan Smith would end up getting that as well.
Escohort said:LOL...how about the nightstalker, Ramirez. Lots of good reviews on him and he's single to boot
sound like a plan...........LOL
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if he really did his wife, yes, he deserves the death penalty.
The operative word here is IF. It sure looks like he did it, but can we be 100% for certain. Many people currently reside on death row , that I dare say are innocent. I'm not saying Scott P. is innocent but they just didn't present enough evidence to fry him.
if he really did his wife, yes, he deserves the death penalty.
The operative word here is IF. It sure looks like he did it, but can we be 100% for certain. Many people currently reside on death row , that I dare say are innocent. I'm not saying Scott P. is innocent but they just didn't present enough evidence to fry him.
Well i believe that he did do it and not to stir this off the original question but i believe there was far more concrete evidence against Robert Blake as well. It does seem rather strange that he would be found innocent! That i just don't understand.
And if memory serves me correctly Lacy was pretty much full term. So therefore, IMO, that is a CHILD......inside the womb or not, it was still a full grown child. Scott Peterson's OWN child to be exact!
And Goober why is your name in blue?? You're not a mod are you??
And if memory serves me correctly Lacy was pretty much full term. So therefore, IMO, that is a CHILD......inside the womb or not, it was still a full grown child. Scott Peterson's OWN child to be exact!
And Goober why is your name in blue?? You're not a mod are you??
Oh Oh ... We all know where this discussion is going. Or do we?
The law that allows a separate charge to be filed on behalf of a fetus injured in a crime against the pregnant woman/mother is relatively new. Of course I understand the sentiment, but you already know what I think of this for its implications to human rights and government control over other areas of a woman's choice to autonomy in decision making with respect to her body, particularly because there is so much debate/uncertainty in all communities of "authority" (i.e., scientific, religious, medical, government) as to the status of a fetus as an autonomous individual. It could be likened to a state of reasonable doubt, and therefore, the thin edge of the wedge in establishing "fact" where none exists.
Sentimentality played a big role in this verdict and sentence - naming the unborn fetus was a brilliant maneuver on the part of the prosecution (and/or family). I seriously doubt he would have received the death penalty otherwise. It would be nice if the evidentiary standards were utilied, but the sheer number of innocent people on death row in the US should make it clear that that is really not the priority in their "justice" system.
Personally, I cannot support the death penalty in any circumstance. The leaders and decision makers in any community must uphold a standard of behaviour that exceeds that of its lowest common denominator - and there is no greater an example of a pre-meditated murder than capital punishment.
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Now Goober, not to rub it in (too hard), but ...
You do realize that you and n_v are now "on the same team," right?
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p.s. You are absolutely right trek5 - the fact that violence against women and family/domestic violence is so successfully prevalent* and, therefore, carries outrageous economic, health, and social costs, does render it meaningless as a crime that should be policed and/or prosecuted - After all, only "six in 10 Canadian incidents of spousal homicide involved a history of domestic violence, of which police were aware." [Juristat: Homicide in Canada, 1998, vol. 19, no. 10]. And besides, its really only women (and some kids)** that are being bothered.
I mean, if we used all those LE resources on this kind of frivolous activity, there would be none left on the streets to make sure that the real criminal low lives of our society aren't having or negotiating sex for money behind closed doors with those harlots!
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The law that allows a separate charge to be filed on behalf of a fetus injured in a crime against the pregnant woman/mother is relatively new. Of course I understand the sentiment, but you already know what I think of this for its implications to human rights and government control over other areas of a woman's choice to autonomy in decision making with respect to her body, particularly because there is so much debate/uncertainty in all communities of "authority" (i.e., scientific, religious, medical, government) as to the status of a fetus as an autonomous individual. It could be likened to a state of reasonable doubt, and therefore, the thin edge of the wedge in establishing "fact" where none exists.
Sentimentality played a big role in this verdict and sentence - naming the unborn fetus was a brilliant maneuver on the part of the prosecution (and/or family). I seriously doubt he would have received the death penalty otherwise. It would be nice if the evidentiary standards were utilied, but the sheer number of innocent people on death row in the US should make it clear that that is really not the priority in their "justice" system.
Personally, I cannot support the death penalty in any circumstance. The leaders and decision makers in any community must uphold a standard of behaviour that exceeds that of its lowest common denominator - and there is no greater an example of a pre-meditated murder than capital punishment.
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Now Goober, not to rub it in (too hard), but ...
You do realize that you and n_v are now "on the same team," right?
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p.s. You are absolutely right trek5 - the fact that violence against women and family/domestic violence is so successfully prevalent* and, therefore, carries outrageous economic, health, and social costs, does render it meaningless as a crime that should be policed and/or prosecuted - After all, only "six in 10 Canadian incidents of spousal homicide involved a history of domestic violence, of which police were aware." [Juristat: Homicide in Canada, 1998, vol. 19, no. 10]. And besides, its really only women (and some kids)** that are being bothered.
I mean, if we used all those LE resources on this kind of frivolous activity, there would be none left on the streets to make sure that the real criminal low lives of our society aren't having or negotiating sex for money behind closed doors with those harlots!
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Stats Canada Daily: Family Violence (http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/030623/d030623c.htm) said:
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For some really shocking analysis of violence and gender, this article is essential: Violence by Men and Women the Same? A FACT-SHEET ON THE 1999 GENERAL SOCIAL SURVEYStats Canada Daily: Homicide (http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/020925/d020925b.htm) said:
Is it that hard to believe that a mother loved her unborn child so much that she had a name picked out already? Does it need to be labelled a "maneuver" to garner points with the jury and public?LeatherDoll said:
I know you're just going to say I'm arguing about semantics, but I need to say the following. As abhorrent as I consider it, I can see that certain individuals feel abortion is an inherent right. I can respect their opinions on the matter even if I disagree with them. But to cheapen the value of a wanted child by referring to it as a "fetus" when the life of that child was taken at the same time as the mother sickens me.
You choose to call it a fetus when the mother calls it a child. What right do you have in reducing its value like that? Is it because it was a male child that it garners no respect from you?
At least respect Laci's apparent choice to carry the child to term by referring to Connor as what he was, a human baby.
To utilize an argument I've heard way too much around here, have you ever known someone who was murdered? A friend, parent, sibling, child? If not, then you can just be quiet about your "opinions" until you do.
I'm not going to dignify this cheap shot with a remark. Shame on you.Now Goober, not to rub it in (too hard), but ...
You do realize that you and n_v are now "on the same team," right?
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Hi,
I knew he would get the death penalty. I said this back in a December thread when he was found guilty of 2 murders. I can't begin to imagine what the families are going through but I feel for them. I hope at some point in time they will be able to have enough closure so they can begin to live again.
As for Scott, I don't have much to say about him but "bye-bye"
Annessa
xoxo
I knew he would get the death penalty. I said this back in a December thread when he was found guilty of 2 murders. I can't begin to imagine what the families are going through but I feel for them. I hope at some point in time they will be able to have enough closure so they can begin to live again.
As for Scott, I don't have much to say about him but "bye-bye"
Annessa
xoxo
A way to justify abortion is not call it a child. The word fetus implies something more clinical, it gives it a more neutral name. My guess is, that this is done to help rationalize the "procedure".Goober Mcfly said:
Anyone that has ever seen a sonogram of a three month old fetus, (I have seen three) would have a hard time referring to it, as anything other than a child.
I am in favor of abortion if the the child is a result of rape or incest and if the mothers or the babies life is at stake.
i am against using abortion as a means of birth control. With all the other options available for birth control, there should not be a need for abortion to join the ranks.
In the end though it is a personal and a moral decision. Because of that it should not be taken lightly and it should not be sterilized. Call it what it is and deal with your decision.
Canadians Against Death Penalty for Scott Peterson
They were on Dan Abrams last night on MSNBC.
They've launched this new web site.
http://www.ccadp.org/scottpeterson.htm
Gee you Canadians sure is nice.
Us Uhmerekins, we just wanna fry the sucker.
They were on Dan Abrams last night on MSNBC.
They've launched this new web site.
http://www.ccadp.org/scottpeterson.htm
Gee you Canadians sure is nice.
Us Uhmerekins, we just wanna fry the sucker.
