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luvyeah

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The fact that you predators would use this time to take advantage of disenfranchised people at this time and insult people who are trying to help these disenfranchised sex workers makes me fucking sick. I’m glad my rates are too high for all you cheap assholes, I would rather be homeless than meet any of you for a session, even if you offered me $1000 for 30 mins.
Please don't get upset, we are all disenfranchised during this time.
Coochie options are at an all time low, and nobody seems to care about us.
 

brazilianguy

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i've said this numerous times twitter is used by the majority of sp's to reitterate their policies and views and as a format to advertise those as the norm of the industry which in most cases are not.
I highly recommend all clients to use twitter as a source to avoid sp's who exhibit bad behaviours, those who ask for handouts, those who berate actual clients or possible clients. Unfortunately there are many sp's who exhibit such bad attitudes.

Let's not kid ourselves into thinking any sp who is charging $250+/hr is struggling, marginalized, in any way disenfranchised or in need of atm.
Let's not kid ourselves into thinking any sp who wears pairs of $700+ heels is struggling, marginalized, in any way disenfranchised or in need of atm.
Let's not kid ourselves into thinking any sp who has $1000+ purses is struggling, marginalized, in any way disenfranchised or in need of atm.
Let's not kid ourselves into thinking any sp who owns $20000+ watch or watches is struggling, marginalized, in any way disenfranchised or in need of atm.
Let's not kid ourselves into thinking any sp who just came back from a tropical getaway is struggling, marginalized, in any way disenfranchised or in need of atm.

The sp's that are doing this have seen an opportunity and are exploiting their clients, and the masses who follow them and reward their behaviour by doing so. It's shameful that so many sp's are doing this and using the coronavirus as a tool to exploit unsuspecting people.

All of these are luxuries in life that one earns the benefits to, and no one has a basic right to it. It's an absolute luxury to have.........so start selling off your luxuries before you ask for handouts and pretend like you're a struggling, or marginalized sp.

I’ve said it before these girls with such attitude are extremely high ymmv, and are only interested about the money, they should be avoided.
here here !!! Louder !! Say it for the ppl of the back of the bus!!
 

sp free

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The fact that you predators would use this time to take advantage of disenfranchised people at this time and insult people who are trying to help these disenfranchised sex workers makes me fucking sick. I’m glad my rates are too high for all you cheap assholes, I would rather be homeless than meet any of you for a session, even if you offered me $1000 for 30 mins.
You enjoy that.
 

Agamenon

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The fact that you predators would use this time to take advantage of disenfranchised people at this time and insult people who are trying to help these disenfranchised sex workers makes me fucking sick. I’m glad my rates are too high for all you cheap assholes, I would rather be homeless than meet any of you for a session, even if you offered me $1000 for 30 mins.
I regret to say this has nothing to do with taking advantage of individuals but more on the conduct of several individuals SP who are holding out a tin cup. With all the resources available to the SP such as lawyers and chartered accounts to help with their taxes that they should of taking the time to learn how to prepare for raining days. You are treated as independent consultants or such as by revenue Canada with the special code assigned for escorts, but spend the money frivolous thinking your sugar daddy will come to the rescue at the drop of your panties. Now these SP are running around in a panic trying to figure out how to support themselves during these trying times. I’m trying to feel empathic but calling your disenfranchised? How do we prevent you from working? How do we prevent you from your profession? before you turn around and say these are extraordinary times look at history will see that mankind has endured many of these events.

You need to take a minute here and take a hard look at yourself as the most disconcerting thing here is your pretentious behaviour towards us and how deep our pockets are or not. Now I ask the hobbyists on this board to follow my lead and give any funds that you considered donating to an SP and help those who are dealing with real hardships.
 

Jasmine Raine

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https://mobile.twitter.com/tash_hamiltonx/status/1240462862218223616

I for one applaud her. She will work a civie job or sell her clothes before asking for handouts on Twitter. Some of you should learn from her and take notes.

I've never been turned on as much before as of now. Damn too bad she lives all the way in Melbourne
Which is great but in the tweet above the one you linked to, she did say she would be taking advance bookings which is not something I have an issue with but is something you guys are all bitching about. Seems like you guys are just very picky/choosy on who can ask for what. Just sayin'
 

doggystyle99

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I regret to say this has nothing to do with taking advantage of individuals but more on the conduct of several individuals SP who are holding out a tin cup. With all the resources available to the SP such as lawyers and chartered accounts to help with their taxes that they should of taking the time to learn how to prepare for raining days. You are treated as independent consultants or such as by revenue Canada with the special code assigned for escorts, but spend the money frivolous thinking your sugar daddy will come to the rescue at the drop of your panties. Now these SP are running around in a panic trying to figure out how to support themselves during these trying times. I’m trying to feel empathic but calling your disenfranchised? How do we prevent you from working? How do we prevent you from your profession? before you turn around and say these are extraordinary times look at history will see that mankind has endured many of these events.

You need to take a minute here and take a hard look at yourself as the most disconcerting thing here is your pretentious behaviour towards us and how deep our pockets are or not. Now I ask the hobbyists on this board to follow my lead and give any funds that you considered donating to an SP and help those who are dealing with real hardships.
Not only does this not have anything to do with clients taking advantage of SP's it's the other way around as numerous SP's are actually taking advantage of their clients by exploiting this horrible situation for their personal financial gains by playing the supposed "Struggling SW" to lure their unsuspecting victims. It's disgusting.

A SP is running a business (sole properietor) just like any other industry where people are S/E (sole proprietor) and own a business, if one hasn't been a contributing member to society by filing taxes as an independent contractor, who make EI and CPP contributions (even as a sole proprietor) that is their own a personal decision they made to keep more money in their pocket and it's a decision that is solely on them.
Even if they haven't done that the federal government just announced those who don't qualify for EI will be able to get assistance from the government, but yet these exploiting SP's are still asking for money from unsuspecting clients.

Everytime the discussion of SP's earning $250+/hr comes up majority of these SP's "claim" they pay taxes just like everyone else. If and that is a big "if" all these SP's who claim they file taxes they should file for EI benefits just like everyone else who has been affected by the Coronavirus. Same with their mortgage payments they can file for deferral up to 6 months just like everyone else, if they have rent and they can't pay it, again just like everyone else they will not be thrown out as evictions are put on hold.

Now I fully understand why societies views in general of SW is so negative.
It's highly predicated on attracting quite a few people who are non contributing members to society, as well as the SW's playing with the emotional feelings or attachments of their clients to take as much as they can, as well preying on the more socially inept men to achieve their goals. It is disgusting.

Majority of these SP's who are reaching for handouts or trying to milk people even more during these tragic times are not struggling they are just preying and exploiting this situation.
 

sp free

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I don’t doubt that SP’s are hurting financially. Not many people understood the magnitude of this outbreak, and those of us that did weren’t taken seriously, or were ridiculed.

It’s a terrible situation for everybody.

That said, many, not all, sex workers are wired to exploit men and are extremely manipulative. It’s what they do. Taking advantage of the current circumstances for personal gain is par for the course.

That doesn’t mean that none are in a position of need, which is too bad, but welcome to the club. People need to take care of themselves and their families. Charity when possible is fine and it’s a personal choice. I’ll just say that if a group of lawyers or stock brokers started begging for money, I’d tell them to fuck off pretty quick.
 

squeezer

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If they want to offer sexting/video packages and whatnot, it's up to the customer if he wants to partake. I don't put this service and begging for donations in the same category because it is a service offered and if there are takers, so be it.
 

doggystyle99

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Whoa whoa whoa...careful now.....people are working from home online so why are you getting riled up if a SW decides to change her business model to online as well? As far as I see it, she is providing a virtual service that many men are willing to pay and have already in the past(ie webcam)....I don’t see that as taking advantage...anyone has the right to decline or avoid such services...are we also going to blame retail companies for keeping their online stores available for business ? Asking for handouts ? Even Fortune 500 companies are asking for handouts right now...you can say no so what’s the issue ?

Believe it or not there are sex workers...many of them are contributing members to society...my ATF pays her taxes and she doesn’t even need to apply for EI cause she has a large savings to fall back on...some aren’t this responsible but that’s the same as non tax paying cash business workers...you can’t hold them all accountable for these bad deeds...I don’t see how providing a legitimate business model which has been around for a long time virtually is taking advantage...as a hobbyist I think we need to quit pointing fingers and get this image out of our heads that all sex workers think and act with bad intentions as if there aren’t other business providers out there who do the same or even worse...
I am sorry but my definition of "Struggling SW's" is not a SP who is out shopping for the latest Louis Vuitton handbag, or the latest Louis Vuitton sneakers 7 days ago, or someone who just returned from a tropical vacation 7 days ago, only to all of a sudden becoming a "Struggling SW's" 4 days ago and can't put food on their table. As I said in some thread luxury items are not necessities or needs they are wants. To try and label yourself as a "Struggling SW" meanwhile shopping for luxury items only a few days before or just returning from a tropical vacation is exploitation of this situation.
And as hobbyist we all need to call it out for what it is.

An SP is no different than any other S/E Canadian who is affected by the Coronavirus (which is the majority of people) and struggling at the moment, yet our Canadian federal government has gone to lengths not only for those who qualify for EI normally but also for those who wouldn't qualify for EI normally to be able to receive assistance from the government.
As well mortgage deferrals can be made for up to 6 months as well as evictions are put on hold, so what are these pan handlers begging for handouts meant for?

As for fortune 500 companies asking for help, I haven't heard any multi national asking for help in Canada, please refer me to links?

Reality is many SP's or SW's in general are trying to exploit the situation to their benefit by asking for handouts. If these SP's are filing taxes then there is help for them already just like every other Canadian, and if they haven't then that is on them.
 

sp free

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If they want to offer sexting/video packages and whatnot, it's up to the customer if he wants to partake. I don't put this service and begging for donations in the same category because it is a service offered and if there are takers, so be it.
This is reasonable.
 

Mr Deeds

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Predators????? Really???? Think that is a little overboard much???

And you clearly have no idea what homelessness is like to making such a comment.

Most guys are not seeing girls. Most of these guys on this thread have said they are not seeing girls so they can't be preying on them.

Now are some assholes? Yes. But predators is a strong word and one with very negative undertones. So maybe just call them what they are.

I don't agree there will be men who will try to take advantage of women in need and I would definitely call them predictors. This has always been true during hard times. On the other hand there are men who are caretakers and white Knights who will help out a lady when she's in need but still hoping for a little gratitude from her.
 

Kawailuvr

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I’m sure you will see prices go way up if they get this virus under control ! The greed of these scandalous women has no limits
 

doggystyle99

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Whoa whoa whoa...careful now.....people are working from home online so why are you getting riled up if a SW decides to change her business model to online as well? As far as I see it, she is providing a virtual service that many men are willing to pay and have already in the past(ie webcam)....I don’t see that as taking advantage...anyone has the right to decline or avoid such services...are we also going to blame retail companies for keeping their online stores available for business ? Asking for handouts ? Even Fortune 500 companies are asking for handouts right now...you can say no so what’s the issue ?

Believe it or not there are sex workers...many of them are contributing members to society...my ATF pays her taxes and she doesn’t even need to apply for EI cause she has a large savings to fall back on...some aren’t this responsible but that’s the same as non tax paying cash business workers...you can’t hold them all accountable for these bad deeds...I don’t see how providing a legitimate business model which has been around for a long time virtually is taking advantage...as a hobbyist I think we need to quit pointing fingers and get this image out of our heads that all sex workers think and act with bad intentions as if there aren’t other business providers out there who do the same or even worse...
No one is arguing here about the hypocrisy some entitled SPs seem to display...I’ve seen this too on social media but I just choose to ignore it...yes the government is providing assistance to those who need so I feel like most SPs should be fine...but my point is why be upset if an SP suddenly chooses to provide an online service like onlyfans or other Skype, texting service etc?

Obviously there are men who will pay for these services if they have the means and they decide it is something of interest to them....People crave social connections especially in a time like this...their business model is no different than brick and mortar retail companies moving their purchase of good online exclusively...other business provide online services like workouts etc and again you have the free will to not patronize them if you don’t wish to do so...

As for the ones asking for handouts and donations when they were previously flaunting designer goods...I find that very unappealing as well but if some guys want to help them in that manner what’s complaining about it going to do?..it was most likely happening before this pandemic and certainly going to continue now...just like how we can all unanimously agree that we can’t stop some hobbyists from seeing SPs at a time like this as it’s a greater risk to the public than someone providing virtual services or asking for handouts....those guys will still risk it all no matter how much it is said here or any other outlet that we need to be self isolating at this time

Many airline companies are asking for bailouts https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nyt...ealbook/coronavirus-airline-bailouts.amp.html
Like I said there are no Canadian companies that are asking for bailouts as of today.
None of what I posted is based on me being upset, also none of my posts in this thread says all SP's like you refer to.

As for your assertion that we can move on and not discuss it, that is your prerogative, if you chose to move on and not discuss these subjects you don't like. But calling SP's out for bad behaviour specially those who pull antics like this, that are at best explotation of this situation is the whole point of this board and needed to keep the industry and SP's honest.
Imagine if every SP who exploited her clients and members on the board didn't bring the subject up because as you say "what's complaining about it going to do"

The reality is discussing such issues are so important to this community and the industry, not discussing it would have the exact opposite affect on the industry, we would be exactly like pre internet SP advertising era where scams, B & S and exploitation of clients as well as SP's were more rampant.

Welcome to the board I see in the very short time you've been on TERB you've tried to tell people what they should or should not discuss and keep telling people to move on from subjects. That is not the purpose of this board is. The purpose of this board is to share information regarding the industry, SP's that will serve the betterment of the industry.
 

Tobbiz

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There is one that I follow, who just came back from a vacation with two other SP’s and of course the client with very deep pockets that bankrolled the whole thing...and these are high priced escorts. Like $700 an hour and up territory.

Yesterday she announced a hiatus due to concerns over the outbreak. Great.

Then she announced a day later that she would be available for online chat for $250 a week. Then further clarified later on that there would be no sexting, it would just be chat.

$250 a week, for chat. Funny thing is, she probably has multiple takers.

Men are pathetic. Really. That’s what is boils down to.
Men weren't this pathetic 30 years ago. They were actually men and not simps. I think the society we live in has tarnished men's testosterones. Social media, porn, IG ect... Has damaged the male brain and caused dopamine receptors to sky rocket, leaving men to chase fantasies. Women are just exploiting it.
 

Kawailuvr

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The fact that you predators would use this time to take advantage of disenfranchised people at this time and insult people who are trying to help these disenfranchised sex workers makes me fucking sick. I’m glad my rates are too high for all you cheap assholes, I would rather be homeless than meet any of you for a session, even if you offered me $1000 for 30 mins.
Just another arrogant whore with a big mouth shitty attitude . Shit the fuck up ffs
Nothing special about you and who says we can’t afford you lol
Your fucking laughable
 

brazilianguy

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I don’t doubt that SP’s are hurting financially. Not many people understood the magnitude of this outbreak, and those of us that did weren’t taken seriously, or were ridiculed.

It’s a terrible situation for everybody.

That said, many, not all, sex workers are wired to exploit men and are extremely manipulative. It’s what they do. Taking advantage of the current circumstances for personal gain is par for the course.

That doesn’t mean that none are in a position of need, which is too bad, but welcome to the club. People need to take care of themselves and their families. Charity when possible is fine and it’s a personal choice. I’ll just say that if a group of lawyers or stock brokers started begging for money, I’d tell them to fuck off pretty quick.
And I was just starting to really like you lol
 

John Wick

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...my ATF pays her taxes and she doesn’t even need to apply for EI cause she has a large savings to fall back on...
Does she now? I suppose because you're such a stand-up guy she provides you a quarterly report of her financial statement, as well as a copy of her quarterly tax returns too? You know only what she decides to tell you on any given day, depending on her mood. You sound pretty naive, making statements like this.

Truth be told, based on your posting history you sound more like an escort masquerading as a male hobbyists online, than you do an actual hobbyist. :hand:
 

doggystyle99

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Yeah I’m not going to echo chamber anything here...I’ve been hobbying for many years prior to joining TERB and what I’ve seen is that people are going to make decisions for their best interests and this is regardless of profession...TERB is a small segment of the global population and even if you made a call for action on here...a lot of guys will brush it off...if they wish to patronize the services that’s their prerogative...again maybe try calling the hobbyists out for still deciding to see SPs in a global pandemic...they are posing a greater risk for the hobbyists and general public than a few who support bad decision making SPs...
I've also been hobbying for many years even prior to joining TERB, I am quite greatful for this board in eradicating the large scale of scam artists/exploiting SP's, the exploited SP's, B & S providers in this industry.
TERB is a small segment of the global population and I am sure everyone knows that just by understanding what TERB stands for Toronto Escort Review Board.
But TERB represents a large segment of where the majority of SP's clients come from in Toronto, although certain SP's would like to downplay the numbers of clients from TERB as a way to deligitimize this board.
As for me calling out hobbyists for still seeing SP's I don't know how many different threads I've advised people to stay home although that will not stop me from calling these exploiting SP's out.

BTW I said in my previous posts there are no Canadian companies that are asking for bailouts as of today. Like you tried to claim as an attempt to justify SP's asking for handouts.
 

doggystyle99

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Does she now? I suppose because you're such a stand-up guy she provides you a quarterly report of her financial statement, as well as a copy of her quarterly tax returns too? You know only what she decides to tell you on any given day, depending on her mood. You sound pretty naive, making statements like this.

Truth be told, based on your posting history you sound more like an escort masquerading as a male hobbyists online, than you do an actual hobbyist. :hand:
Kuberman's first post ever on TERB 03 03 2020
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...s-on-Twitter&p=6640654&viewfull=1#post6640654

"Some people will want to give them gifts; others will not. Believe me there are a lot that do. Not sure why this is a big issue to be honest. It can cost a lot to look good for these SPs."

I thought I was the only one who thought this poster was some sort of cohort/SHILL/WK or possibly an SP masquerading as a client.
 
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