They always are, as long as somebody else is going to do the fighting.
Will NATO bomb the Houthis??
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Iranians and their government are smarter than that. That's why they don't engage on it....they let hezbollah and hamas do the dirty work. I've been to Iran...such a beautiful place with beautiful people....it only takes a ruling power to do a 180 to fuck it up...
Netanyahu has been trying to both get the US to attack Iran for decades and find a way to get support for his genocide.
The US is risking aiding Israel in turning the middle east into a massive mess with fighting in Yemen, Israel, Syria and Lebanon, with Egypt on the side watching Israel trying to push Palestinians in the Sinai.
Genocide Joe is massively screwing up.
Joe's got deep Delaware heritage. The Dupont empire started there, supplying most of the gunpowder used by the US during the Civil War. Dupont figured prominently in the right wing plot to take over FDR in the '30s. Not talked about much these days...
Add in his recent moves against immigrants and all of a sudden his progressive sheen has disappeared.
That's a lot of navy.
But there still isn't any shipping going through, is there?
How long do they have to keep them there now?
Forever?
Yemen has been suffering under a US backed Saudi war for years and they still can block the Red Sea?
The only thing the Houthis have going for them is that there's so little there of any value to bomb that they probably DGaF.
2020–present
On 30 June 2020, a report by Yemeni human rights group Mwatana documented since May 2016, more than 1,600 cases of arbitrary detentions, 770 forced disappearances, 344 cases of torture and at least 66 deaths in unofficial prisons. The report stated that Houthis were responsible for most abuses. It blamed them for 350 forced disappearances, 138 incidents of torture, and 27 deaths in detention, while UAE-backed forces, including the Southern Transitional Council, were responsible for 327 disappearances, 141 cases of torture, and 25 deaths in detention. The report blamed forces loyal to the Saudi-backed Yemeni government for 65 cases of torture and over 24 deaths.[34]
On 14 September 2020, Human Rights Watch wrote that Houthis have a "particularly egregious record of obstructing aid agencies from reaching civilians in need".[35]
Three leaders of the Houthi movement were to be designated as the Specially Designated Global Terrorists by the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. This announcement of January 2021 raised concerns amongst the aid workers and diplomats, who pointed that the move would create problems in the peace process and in providing aid in Yemen.[36]
Human shields
The Houthis are reported to have used human shields, such as during the Dhamar airstrike by putting detainees near weapons storage facilities.[37]
Use of child soldiers
In January 2022, AP News reported that U.N. experts said in a new report that nearly 2,000 children recruited by Yemen's Houthi rebels died on the battlefield between January 2020 and May 2021, and the Iranian-backed rebels continue to hold camps and courses encouraging youngsters to fight. In the report to the U.N. Security Council circulated Saturday, the experts said they investigated some summer camps in schools and a mosque where the Houthis disseminated their ideology and sought to recruit children fight for them against the internationally recognized government of Yemen.[38]
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On 30 June 2020, a report by Yemeni human rights group Mwatana documented since May 2016, more than 1,600 cases of arbitrary detentions, 770 forced disappearances, 344 cases of torture and at least 66 deaths in unofficial prisons. The report stated that Houthis were responsible for most abuses. It blamed them for 350 forced disappearances, 138 incidents of torture, and 27 deaths in detention, while UAE-backed forces, including the Southern Transitional Council, were responsible for 327 disappearances, 141 cases of torture, and 25 deaths in detention. The report blamed forces loyal to the Saudi-backed Yemeni government for 65 cases of torture and over 24 deaths.[34]
On 14 September 2020, Human Rights Watch wrote that Houthis have a "particularly egregious record of obstructing aid agencies from reaching civilians in need".[35]
Three leaders of the Houthi movement were to be designated as the Specially Designated Global Terrorists by the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. This announcement of January 2021 raised concerns amongst the aid workers and diplomats, who pointed that the move would create problems in the peace process and in providing aid in Yemen.[36]
Human shields
The Houthis are reported to have used human shields, such as during the Dhamar airstrike by putting detainees near weapons storage facilities.[37]
Use of child soldiers
In January 2022, AP News reported that U.N. experts said in a new report that nearly 2,000 children recruited by Yemen's Houthi rebels died on the battlefield between January 2020 and May 2021, and the Iranian-backed rebels continue to hold camps and courses encouraging youngsters to fight. In the report to the U.N. Security Council circulated Saturday, the experts said they investigated some summer camps in schools and a mosque where the Houthis disseminated their ideology and sought to recruit children fight for them against the internationally recognized government of Yemen.[38]
War crimes in the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) - Wikipedia
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So you decided to pick Mr Bone Saw as your leader for moral reasons?2020–present
On 30 June 2020, a report by Yemeni human rights group Mwatana documented since May 2016, more than 1,600 cases of arbitrary detentions, 770 forced disappearances, 344 cases of torture and at least 66 deaths in unofficial prisons. The report stated that Houthis were responsible for most abuses. It blamed them for 350 forced disappearances, 138 incidents of torture, and 27 deaths in detention, while UAE-backed forces, including the Southern Transitional Council, were responsible for 327 disappearances, 141 cases of torture, and 25 deaths in detention. The report blamed forces loyal to the Saudi-backed Yemeni government for 65 cases of torture and over 24 deaths.[34]
On 14 September 2020, Human Rights Watch wrote that Houthis have a "particularly egregious record of obstructing aid agencies from reaching civilians in need".[35]
Three leaders of the Houthi movement were to be designated as the Specially Designated Global Terrorists by the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. This announcement of January 2021 raised concerns amongst the aid workers and diplomats, who pointed that the move would create problems in the peace process and in providing aid in Yemen.[36]
Human shields
The Houthis are reported to have used human shields, such as during the Dhamar airstrike by putting detainees near weapons storage facilities.[37]
Use of child soldiers
In January 2022, AP News reported that U.N. experts said in a new report that nearly 2,000 children recruited by Yemen's Houthi rebels died on the battlefield between January 2020 and May 2021, and the Iranian-backed rebels continue to hold camps and courses encouraging youngsters to fight. In the report to the U.N. Security Council circulated Saturday, the experts said they investigated some summer camps in schools and a mosque where the Houthis disseminated their ideology and sought to recruit children fight for them against the internationally recognized government of Yemen.[38]
War crimes in the Yemeni civil war (2014–present) - Wikipedia
The Houthis can't commit war crimes, right Farfar?
Because they're "anti colonialist anti racists".
I'd rather not support either side, mandrill.
But its pretty hilarious you think that Yemen are somehow worse morally than MBS and the Saudis and that justifies supporting them.
You might as well just say you support imperialism and the oil despots, pretending its about morals is lame.
My own fault, I had thought it was just ship to ship attacks - hadn't realized it was strikes from land.
Sorry.
They're not worse - except perhaps marginally when one considers the statistics of captives tortured to death or children killed or mosques bombed.
They're all just Arab states / non state actors doing what Arab states love to do.
