No, I'm saying we're being just as shitty now, but we're brushing it under the rug and out of sight so we can act like saints. All the while ordinary Canadians get screwed over.
Will Mark Carney deliver on the climate values he preached as a central banker?
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You are getting screwed over.
Home insurance is up across the country from floods and fires.
Food costs are up from crop and climate issues.
And we're still getting involved in stupid petro wars.
Now you're arguing that a PM can control the climate?
I thought you were one of those climate change deniers who thought humans can't affect the global climate.
Nobody can control the climate, but it was never a priority the way Trudeau made it out to be....ask Dr. Bill Gates...LMAO
None of which can be fixed by Canada paying a carbon tax or outsourcing our manufacturing overseas.
I mean, I have to go this low to be on your level...LMAO...just to level the field...
It can be fixed by every country paying carbon taxes and investing in renewables.
But it can't be fixed if countries refuse.
We hit 1.5ºC and things are messed up.
At 2ªC they'll be fucked.
At 3º billions will die.
But cheer on not paying an extra $100 in carbon tax as the big win it is for you.
How kind of you to try to level the field with larue.
Mr Science needs some company in the land of climate morons.
How stupid do you have to be to look at a chart like this and say the planet isn't warming?
There ya go. You just said it yourself. It can't be fixed. Because the biggest polluters won't sign on, and even if they did, there's nothing holding them to any target.
I don't know what part of this you aren't getting. As a practical reality, Canada's carbon tax is accomplishing nothing except outsourcing our pollution elsewhere, losing Canadian jobs, and making life more expensive.
I don't disagree that climate change is a major threat. I'm saying a carbon tax is not what's going to solve it.
What you are saying is you don't think we should care or try to do our fair share to make things not catastrophic.
Screw your kids, you say, paying an extra few hundred in carbon taxes isn't worth their future.
You don't seem to be listening to what I'm saying. You keep acting like I'm a climate change denier or that I think we should do nothing.
I didn't say we should do nothing. I'm saying we shouldn't do the carbon tax, because it's completely ineffective and has negative side effects. It's equivalent to trying to demolish an old brick building by kicking it. The problem is still there, but now you have a sore toe.
It's a pipe dream to believe we can get enough of the world onboard with a carbon tax to make a difference. It is NOT reality. We really need to stop making bad and costly policy decisions that make us feel good, but accomplish nothing meaningful.
We need to immediately reverse course, stop outsourcing jobs and pollution overseas, then use the added boost to our economy to invest heavily in R&D. Something Canada has been extremely behind the 8-ball on. The only viable way out of climate change is through technology. Or societal collapse. I'd prefer the former.
The only viable path to stop catastrophic climate change is a carbon tax combined with massive infrastructure investment in renewables.
You need to do everything all at once.
A carbon tax makes EV's and heat pumps the economic choice.
Subsidies make the change possible.
You need it all, not pie in the sky 'tech will fix it'.
This is what a carbon tax and subsidies are doing in the EU.
If that's the only fix, then we're screwed. Canada and the EU have simply shipped their pollution to China and India, where there is no carbon tax, and we haven't accomplished anything except make Canada less competitive in global markets, which is part of the reason we're so damn reliant on the U.S. market, whose appetite is so ravenous it has somewhat hid our uncompetitiveness. I simply don't see a carbon tax as a viable path. You would have to get the majority of the world on board with it, and I simply do not see how that's possible.
No, the only actual viable path is a scalable clean energy source (like nuclear fusion) that is more economically viable than fossil fuels. Until that is possible, EVs do nothing except switch your pollution from burning gasoline to burning natural gas (or worse) at a power plant.
Canada, Norway and Australia, three countries run by government
and leaders openly committed to fighting climate change, is doing
more than shipping their pollution to China and India like other
western countries. They are all eagerly exporting fossil fuels to
other parts of the world with no regard to their contribution to rising
global greenhouse gas emission.
Action speaks louder than words. If no threats of impending climate
catastrophe could ever stop climate-positive countries to reduce
let alone stop coal, oil and gas production where profits can be made
that must mean something.
Coal-fired power plants might have been phased out nearly entirely
in Canada. And yet we will continue exporting coal until all economic
coal resources are depleted.
Our leaders can't be that dumb not to have enforced reduction of fossil
fuel output knowing the threat of human extinction posed by climate change.
There is one obvious explanation of their climate inaction---climate change
is real only as far as it is politically correct to be its advocate.
My advice to those who are genuinely concerned about climate change
is that it is fruitless to debate climate lunatics. Giving up your ICE
cars or simply cutting back on driving and switch to public transportation
should be good enough for you to do your share of betterment of Earth's
Eco Future.
