Will Israel Strike Iran This Week?

[flubadub]

Just a couple of things

If there is a radioactive footprint around an enrichment plant there are some SERIOUS PROBLEMS like you know a leak or something .
The system being used by Iran is a cascading system of centrifuges, basically they spinn Uranium hexafluoride and the heavier atoms spin to the outside where they are removed that type of enrichjment is used almost exclusivly for producing weapons grade products. The USA and Russia uses it for both weapons and producing fuel due to the cost of building the plants. If the Iranians wanted a simple power reactor they would have gone with a design that does not use enriched fuel there are several available. That they did not is what caused the UN to take notice.

The "moving goal posts" is a result of the almost total non compliance by the Iranian govt. The recent commissioning of a new set of centrifuges which is far beyond what they need for reactor fuel is ust another example of that.

Previously Iran had been enriching up to what is it, 3.5% needed for nuclear power and now has started enriching up to 20% for medical reactors. And as far as I know, there are no limits on what type of reactors you're allowed under the NPT, as long as they are for power generation. Didn't the US even start supplying Iran with reactors, before bailing and then pulling a fast on them in a previous plan to ship out unrefined uranium in a swap for fuel rods? I seem to recall that Iran was ripped off, with no fuel rods ever coming back, though can't remember offhand how many decades ago this happened.

The recent set of centrifuges pissed off the states, but were still legit according to the NPT, as Iran did notify the IAEA 6 months prior to the centrifuges being put in use.

Personally, I'll be happy if Iran gets its reactor going and is not bombed, as that means it will become almost impossible to bomb the reactor without heavy fallout (nuclear and political) and that means it is much less likely that Israel will start another war.

 

[fuji]

Flub, do you seriously believe that Iran has only peaceful nuclear intentions? So far as I know NOBODY believes that. Not even Iran's traditional allies.

 

[toguy5252]

Previously Iran had been enriching up to what is it, 3.5% needed for nuclear power and now has started enriching up to 20% for medical reactors. And as far as I know, there are no limits on what type of reactors you're allowed under the NPT, as long as they are for power generation. Didn't the US even start supplying Iran with reactors, before bailing and then pulling a fast on them in a previous plan to ship out unrefined uranium in a swap for fuel rods? I seem to recall that Iran was ripped off, with no fuel rods ever coming back, though can't remember offhand how many decades ago this happened.

The recent set of centrifuges pissed off the states, but were still legit according to the NPT, as Iran did notify the IAEA 6 months prior to the centrifuges being put in use.

Personally, I'll be happy if Iran gets its reactor going and is not bombed, as that means it will become almost impossible to bomb the reactor without heavy fallout (nuclear and political) and that means it is much less likely that Israel will start another war.

Now i am sure you are the clown.

For years now Iran has been threatening to obliterate Israel. Shall I post some references or do you deny that? Why don't you produce one where Israel has has threatened Iran other than with respect to its nuclear capability which virtually all western countries and most Gulf states agree is intended to become weaponized. You seem to be one of the few apologists for the Iranian nuclear program. You will have seen the quotes from the Saudi news agency and the UAE minister. Hardly Israeli flaks.

You really are a pathetic clown.

 

[Mervyn]

So

Has Isreal attacked yet ? ? ? if not, what's the over/under on a attack atm ? ?

 

[anomandar]

So far as I know NOBODY believes that. Not even Iran's traditional allies.

Have to agree...

 

[nottyboi]

Flub, do you seriously believe that Iran has only peaceful nuclear intentions? So far as I know NOBODY believes that. Not even Iran's traditional allies.

What do you consider peaceful intentions? Do you consider building a nuclear deterrent as peaceful? I do. I don't believe that Iran ever intends to use nuclear weapons in a first strike againt israel or any other country. Firstly, they have never initiated a war, secondly it would be suicide to do so.

 

[nottyboi]

Now i am sure you are the clown.

For years now Iran has been threatening to obliterate Israel. Shall I post some references or do you deny that? Why don't you produce one where Israel has has threatened Iran other than with respect to its nuclear capability which virtually all western countries and most Gulf states agree is intended to become weaponized. You seem to be one of the few apologists for the Iranian nuclear program. You will have seen the quotes from the Saudi news agency and the UAE minister. Hardly Israeli flaks.

You really are a pathetic clown.

Are you claiming Israel and the US have never threatened Iran lol?

 

[hinz]

Now it becomes more clear why Israel never signed the NPT!.....

They would probably sign the NPT when either John Crossman is no longer an issue or Iran is no longer run by Shia theocracy.

Both are equally remote, just like expecting Woody to suck it up and stop dwelling on self pitying 24/7 for 8 years.

 

[danmand]

Flub, do you seriously believe that Iran has only peaceful nuclear intentions? So far as I know NOBODY believes that. Not even Iran's traditional allies.

That depends on what you consider peaceful intentions. I have seen no indication that Iran is about to attack another country, so I would conclude that Iran, if they are, are seeking nuclear weapons for defensive purposes. Iran was afterall attacked by an Iraq that was helped by the US. I may be wrong, but I do not see Iran attacking its neighbours. But, likewise, I never believed that the USSR wanted to attack the US.

 

[basketcase]

... so I would conclude that Iran, if they are, are seeking nuclear weapons for defensive purposes. ...

Doesn't that go exactly against what the NPT is about?

 

[flubadub]

Now i am sure you are the clown.

For years now Iran has been threatening to obliterate Israel. Shall I post some references or do you deny that? Why don't you produce one where Israel has has threatened Iran other than with respect to its nuclear capability which virtually all western countries and most Gulf states agree is intended to become weaponized. You seem to be one of the few apologists for the Iranian nuclear program. You will have seen the quotes from the Saudi news agency and the UAE minister. Hardly Israeli flaks.

You really are a pathetic clown.

You're making things up again.
The only reference to threats against Israel is from a mistranslated speech from Ahmadinejad a few years ago. He read a quote from something or other that translates as something to the effect that 'Israel will be erased from the map of history', which the neo-con's mistranslated into 'we will obliterate Israel from the map of the world'. One quote, one speech. Not to say that President A is not a complete ass who is thwarting democracy through cheating elections and a religious nut (though of course he doesn't even hold the true power in the country). Other than that, to my knowledge Iran has not threatened any country with war only with retaliations for attacks.

Israel, meanwhile, has a history of blowing up nuclear reactors as they did to Iraq in '81, which probably pushed Hussein into starting his alleged WMD plan. Israel, and the US, have both threatened Iran repeatedly with attacks, which I find surprising that you have no issue with. Do you support bombing countries for developing treaty allowed, nuclear power?

 

[Cobster]

You're making things up again.
The only reference to threats against Israel is from a mistranslated speech from Ahmadinejad a few years ago. He read a quote from something or other that translates as something to the effect that 'Israel will be erased from the map of history', which the neo-con's mistranslated into 'we will obliterate Israel from the map of the world'. One quote, one speech. Not to say that President A is not a complete ass who is thwarting democracy through cheating elections and a religious nut (though of course he doesn't even hold the true power in the country). Other than that, to my knowledge Iran has not threatened any country with war only with retaliations for attacks.

Israel, meanwhile, has a history of blowing up nuclear reactors as they did to Iraq in '81, which probably pushed Hussein into starting his alleged WMD plan. Israel, and the US, have both threatened Iran repeatedly with attacks, which I find surprising that you have no issue with. Do you support bombing countries for developing treaty allowed, nuclear power?

Didn't know that about Ahmadinejad's speech being a possible quote or translation, but I wouldn't put it past the neo-cons to stretch or twist it up a bit.

 

[basketcase]

I am still waiting for an explanation for why - if Iran is getting nuclear fuel from Russia that support their electricity creation - are they continuing with their own enrichment and planning to build another 10 enrichment sites?

 

[landscaper]

What do you consider peaceful intentions? Do you consider building a nuclear deterrent as peaceful? I do. I don't believe that Iran ever intends to use nuclear weapons in a first strike againt israel or any other country. Firstly, they have never initiated a war, secondly it would be suicide to do so.

Lets see,a guarenteed place in heaven with all those virgins at you beck and call for a "suicide" that kills enemys of ISlam

 

[WoodPeckr]

I am still waiting for an explanation for why - if Iran is getting nuclear fuel from Russia that support their electricity creation - are they continuing with their own enrichment and planning to build another 10 enrichment sites?

So they can make their own fuel and not be dependent on the Ruskies.
It ain't rocket science....

 

[fuji]

What do you consider peaceful intentions? Do you consider building a nuclear deterrent as peaceful?

No. I consider that to be warlike intentions. In any case, does ANYONE seriously believe that Iran's lie that their nuclear program is for power generation only and that they are not building a nuclear weapon?

 

[landscaper]

So they can make their own fuel and not be dependent on the Ruskies.
It ain't rocket science....

No the problem is with the rocket science and a payload

 

[WoodPeckr]

No the problem is with the rocket science and a payload

No problem Israel has far more of them, courtesy of the USA MIC!....

 

[hinz]

No problem Israel has far more of them, courtesy of the USA MIC!....

Cha-Ching, Cha-Ching. Money hand over fist for those who have stakes on MIC.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Cha-Ching, Cha-Ching. Money hand over fist for those who have stakes on MIC.

Yepper the Merchants of Death will enrich anyone without a conscience who are willing to sell their soul to the devil...