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Will Harriet Miers be confirmed?

Will Harriet Miers be confirmed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • No

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • I don't know, I just hate Bush

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • Total voters
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lenharper

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Even so, what was particularly "leftist" about them? I haven't lived in america but have studied American politics and would be hard pressed to characterize any major american politcal figure as a leftist.

maybe FDR with his creation of government programs to combat the affects of the Depression but since then it seems to have largely been a battle of two centerist parties.
 

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lenharper said:
Even so, what was particularly "leftist" about them? I haven't lived in america but have studied American politics and would be hard pressed to characterize any major american politcal figure as a leftist.

maybe FDR with his creation of government programs to combat the affects of the Depression but since then it seems to have largely been a battle of two centerist parties.
The word leftist is probably not the right term. You are absolutely right in comparisson to most countries, even the Democrats would be considered right wing..LOL
 

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langeweile said:
The word leftist is probably not the right term. You are absolutely right in comparisson to most countries, even the Democrats would be considered right wing..LOL
Arguably, John Quincy Adams can be considered a leftist, as some steeped in his writings allege.
But the real significance of the Left in contemporary America is the manner in which "leftist" culture, as some writers portray it, has had an enormous influence upon the shape, circumstances and direction of its political process and context of divisive social problems and approaches.
In recent history one can trace the leftist perspective from Harry Hopkins advisory inflence over F.D.R. during WW11-(an influence whish Churchill treated very gently),Alger Hiss , the soviet spy and chief advisor to Roosevelt at Yalta (talk to some citizens of the Baltic States about this), Harry Dexter, White,deputy secretary Treasurer, and many others.
More recently, the influence of people such as Anthony Lake who regarded the Khymer Rouge as benign social reformers in Cam bodia and who was naturally Clinton's first choice as an advisor.
In more recent times, the de facto alliance between the leftists and radical Islamic terrorists, the work of prominant historians such as Zinn, Lerner, Hobsbawa, et al, philosphers such as Chomsky and, of course, the littany of academics and semi-educated journalist and media types, have found and established the rebirth of the fifth column of leftism since the war in Iraq.

Perhaps, I suppose, to get back to the topic as my random views seem to indicate: the irony is that Ms. Meirs will be confirmed, but the main opposition will come from a rather unholy alliance between the "Leftists" and the "Radical Right".
 

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I guess not.

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WoodPeckr

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I was right, she is out now.

She was to much of a unknown 'stealth' candidate for the left and not enough of a 'right-wingnut' for the righties, so she had to withdraw.
Wonder if she withdrew on her own volition, or was 'ordered' to withdraw?
It will be interesting to see who Dubya considers next.

My guess, since the Dems sense an upcoming Team 'W' bloodbath, Dubya will offer a peacemaker moderate candidate which will probably drive the far righties bonkers...... :p
 

Cardinal Fang

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WoodPeckr said:
My guess, since the Dems sense an upcoming Team 'W' bloodbath, Dubya will offer a peacemaker moderate candidate which will probably drive the far righties bonkers...... :p
I disagree.

George is going to have to offer up a very Conservative canditate that will please his base support. Which most likely will anger moderate America. Either way it should be a great show.
 

The Mugger

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Cardinal Fang said:
I disagree.

George is going to have to offer up a very Conservative canditate that will please his base support. Which most likely will anger moderate America. Either way it should be a great show.

After Libby, that might be a stretch, beside Rove has gone way out of his way to distance the 04 Bush win as something the Christian right produce.

Plus the poor boy cannot stand another fight (or shoot himself) like this again. I think he has to move to the middle so that he can govern with some authority again.

But your right any move right or the middle shall produce some great comedy, however, while I'm not a big fan of Bush or his politics, I really don't look forward to a paralyzed US government. The last time this happened (Clinton) having the WH paralyzed to inaction greatly contributed to the events that lead to 911.
 

langeweile

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Cardinal Fang said:
I disagree.

George is going to have to offer up a very Conservative canditate that will please his base support. Which most likely will anger moderate America. Either way it should be a great show.
You are right on...what does he have to loose..he is pretty much a lame duck already.
 

Asterix

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langeweile said:
You are right on...what does he have to loose..
Republican '06 congressional elections.
 

langeweile

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langeweile said:
You are right on...what does he have to loose..he is pretty much a lame duck already.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050719/19alito.htm

I hate to say so...but....I told you so...I just went to Costco to buy the family pack of popcorn..this is going to be fun to watch.

IMHO GWB did the right think..can't wait to see if the nuclear option will be used.
So what..they loose the house and/or the senate,in trade off they gain a supreme court??
 

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langeweile said:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050719/19alito.htm

I hate to say so...but....I told you so...I just went to Costco to buy the family pack of popcorn..this is going to be fun to watch.

IMHO GWB did the right think..can't wait to see if the nuclear option will be used.
So what..they loose the house and/or the senate,in trade off they gain a supreme court??
So a new person is sent before the senate. What happens from here??????????
 

onthebottom

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langeweile said:
Yup..what can I say....you are right on...
The Rs want this fight, they are thinking it's the key to their re-election in 06.

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onthebottom

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langeweile said:
you might have something there. It certainly will ensure that the base is showing up at the polls. We all know what an increase at the polls meant at the last election. :)
The more they can run agaist Boxer, Kennedy, Reid the better they look.

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