Will Donald Trump be leaving the White House as a penniless pauper?

havingfun

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Think of it. Trump has his money in golf courses, hotels, office towers where tenants can no longer pay the rent. None of these businesses are going to do well during the current pandemic. In fact, as the article that I copied below shows, the man has taken a massive financial hit due to COVID-19 and obviously continues to bleed money. No wonder he hates the Chinese so much, his businesses have huge loans outstanding to the Chinese and he will soon be unable to pay them.
(for info on this point see: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-debt-to-china)

He has become completely unhinged. With polls showing that he will soon be out of work, his prospects are grim indeed. He will soon be joining the endless lines at the food banks. Maybe jail would be a better option - at least he would get 3 squares a day.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...lost-1bn-in-a-month-from-coronavirus-lockdown

Donald Trump lost an estimated $1bn of his paper fortune in the past month as the coronavirus lockdown forced the closure of offices, shopping centres, hotels and golf courses he owns.

The US president’s fortune has fallen from an estimated $3.1bn (£2.5bn) on 1 March to $2.1bn on 18 March (at the height of stock market panic caused by the coronavirus pandemic) according to Forbes magazine’s annual billionaires list.

The Covid-19 induced collapse in global stock markets led to 267 of the world’s richest people losing their billionaire status, in the magazine’s 34th annual wealth ranking. There are now 2,095 dollar billionaires in the world – and a record 1,062 of them have lost money compared with last year.

Among those who joined the billionaires’ club is Eric Yuan, the founder of Silicon Valley video conferencing app Zoom. The magazine estimates that Yuan, who owns 20% of Zoom’s shares, has a paper fortune of $5.5bn.

The app has become hugely popular during the coronavirus lockdown as people around the world use it to keep in touch. Zoom has been used for everything from nursery school sing-alongs to FTSE 100 boardroom meertings and even UK Cabinet meetings.

But Yuan was forced to apologise to users over misleading claims that it offers “end-to-end encryption for all meetings”. “We recognise that we have fallen short of the community’s – and our own – privacy and security expectations,” Yuan said in a blog post. “For that, I am deeply sorry.”

Amazon founder and chief executive, Jeff Bezos, maintained his standing as the world’s richest person for the third consecutive year with a $113bn fortune. His total wealth estimated by Forbes slipped from $131bn last year. Amazon’s shares have largely recovered from the stock market plunge as most of the company’s services are still operating throughout the lockdown.

Most of Trump’s wealth comes from his real estate. His Trump Organization empire – which is managed by his sons Donald Jr and Eric – includes Trump Tower in Manhattan and his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, which the president likes to call his “winter White House”). There are also more than a dozen hotels and golf courses, such as the Trump International Hotel above the Las Vegas strip and the Trump International Golf Links in Aberdeenshire, Scotland.

World governments and many US states have forced the closure of all non-essential businesses across the world, leaving offices and hotels empty and golf courses deserted.

The Trump Organization has closed 17 of its properties across the world, according to the Washington Post. Those that are still open are running skeleton services. About 1,500 Trump Organization staff have been laid off or furloughed, according to public filings reviewed by the newspaper.

The closed properties generated about $650,000-a-day for the company, according to the president’s previous financial disclosures.

The Trump Organization last week sought guidance from Florida’s Palm Beach county about whether it expected the company to continue making monthly payments on land it leases for a 27-hole golf club, the New York Times reported. Trump representatives have also reached out to Deutsche Bank, the company’s largest creditor, about the possibility of postponing payments on some of its loans.

Forbes said it calculated Trump’s fortune by comparing it to the share price plunges experienced by stock market-listed real estate companies, which suffered average stock price declines of 37%. The magazine also compared Trump’s hotel and golf businesses with listed hospitality companies, which have also suffered heavily in the stock market rout.

Trump also owns 125,000 sq ft of retail space near Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. It is normally one of the most profitable shopping areas in the world, but has been deserted for weeks due to the pandemic.

Eric Anton, a New York property broker, said: “The [Forbes] analysis, it’s as good as any other way I can think of [estimating Trump’s wealth].”
 
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After he retires from POTUS in 2024 he will have recouped most of the losses and have a nice pension from being POTUS to boot. No former president ever has to worry about bread lines.
 

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A lot of ex-Presidents manage to make some good coin by writing their memoirs. Unfortunately, this option is not open to Trump because it is well known that the man cannot even read, much less string together a paragraph. Desperate times in store for this man...
 

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What else is new? When hasn't he been bankrupt or on the verge of it? That's his thing, Man!
 

havingfun

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What else is new? When hasn't he been bankrupt or on the verge of it? That's his thing, Man!
True. Just as he is a spectacular failure as a President, he is a spectacular failure as a businessman. Last time he was rescued by Russian oligarchs. I doubt there is anyone waiting in the wings to rescue him this time.
 

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After he retires from POTUS in 2024 he will have recouped most of the losses and have a nice pension from being POTUS to boot. No former president ever has to worry about bread lines.
He was never a billionaire in the first place, he lies about that as well.
 

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If there's any justice in the US he'll go from the white house to the big house.
 

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Frankfooter

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Your article references his determined wealth from 2004, so yes, If you go back far enough,he wasn’t a billionaire. I thought this thread referenced his current wealth. My bad.
True, that article is old.
But assuming that Trump is even lying to his banks about how much money he has, do you think he's telling you the truth?
You think he's stopped that?
Think that his taxes are really being withheld because of audits?
 

out4fun

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True, that article is old.
But assuming that Trump is even lying to his banks about how much money he has, do you think he's telling you the truth?
You think he's stopped that?
Think that his taxes are really being withheld because of audits?
Do I think that he is honest? No. I think that he is a complete showman with little substance, but I doubt that he will leave the White House penniless. Also, I would find it difficult to dispute that at the moment, he is still worth several billion dollars.
 

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Well if Trump leaves penniless, then the right wingers on this Board will start a fund raising campaign for his cause. After all he has taught them some of his trademarks such as lying and corruption!!
 

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True. Just as he is a spectacular failure as a President, he is a spectacular failure as a businessman. Last time he was rescued by Russian oligarchs. I doubt there is anyone waiting in the wings to rescue him this time.
That's one of the big failures of the Mueller report, they didn't investigate Trump's financial ties to Russia oligarchs. That's the backbone of Trump's ties with Russia/Putin, everybody knows Trump is all about the money and that's Putin's leverage on Trump. Donald Trump doesn't give a damn about the people of Russia or Ukraine, he wants access to the money line that is controlled by Putin. Putin wants sanctions dropped and to weaken NATO.
 

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Hurry up guys. You don't want to be the one that has to eat the bread or pizza
 
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