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Why the Catholic Church will never change

james t kirk

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What is really interesting is that the Cardinals are 2 thirds European, however, Europe only makes up 15 percent of world wide catholics and for that matter, a quarter of the cardinals are Italian, but Italians only make up 6 percent of Catholics.

I think it's at least time for a Central Amerian to be pope.
 

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i don't believe in god and i don't go to church. it is not for me. my daughter goes to church and believes in god and i encourage it and don't tell her different. she says it makes her feel happy and she likes helping other people and tells me it has a good message. i never worry about my daughter going to church alone, i would never send my son to church alone lol.

if church and believing in god helps you and makes you happy then who am i to argue. flip the coin and a lot of church goes i know tell me i am going to hell for not going to church and let me know i am a bad person for not going. not all of them but a lot. so it makes me wonder why "you" going to church is fine by me and i would never say otherwise but me not going gives "you" a right to get in my face and tell me i am a bad person.

edit- i forgot about atheists for a minute. those assholes are as bad about religion as church goers. i can hardly talk to them either they almost always crank the conversation to religion and then crobar all of their thoughts in. they are an annoying bunch as well.
 

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What is really interesting is that the Cardinals are 2 thirds European, however, Europe only makes up 15 percent of world wide catholics and for that matter, a quarter of the cardinals are Italian, but Italians only make up 6 percent of Catholics.

I think it's at least time for a Central Amerian to be pope.
Old money versus new money?
 

blackrock13

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i don't believe in god and i don't go to church. it is not for me. my daughter goes to church and believes in god and i encourage it and don't tell her different. she says it makes her feel happy and she likes helping other people and tells me it has a good message. i never worry about my daughter going to church alone, i would never send my son to church alone lol.

if church and believing in god helps you and makes you happy then who am i to argue. flip the coin and a lot of church goes i know tell me i am going to hell for not going to church and let me know i am a bad person for not going. not all of them but a lot. so it makes me wonder why "you" going to church is fine by me and i would never say otherwise but me not going gives "you" a right to get in my face and tell me i am a bad person.
.... and you feel your daughter is getting 'brainwashed'?
 

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.... a quarter of the cardinals are Italian, but Italians only make up 6 percent of Catholics.
LOL!!!
That's because the Vatican is in Rome and Italians therefore always thought they should run the show!.....:D
 

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The Church will never change because they allow criminals, people guilty of criminal conspiracy like Mahoney, vote for the next CEO....er....Pope.
 

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i don't believe in god and i don't go to church. it is not for me. my daughter goes to church and believes in god and i encourage it and don't tell her different. she says it makes her feel happy and she likes helping other people and tells me it has a good message. i never worry about my daughter going to church alone, i would never send my son to church alone lol.

if church and believing in god helps you and makes you happy then who am i to argue. flip the coin and a lot of church goes i know tell me i am going to hell for not going to church and let me know i am a bad person for not going. not all of them but a lot. so it makes me wonder why "you" going to church is fine by me and i would never say otherwise but me not going gives "you" a right to get in my face and tell me i am a bad person.

edit- i forgot about atheists for a minute. those assholes are as bad about religion as church goers. i can hardly talk to them either they almost always crank the conversation to religion and then crobar all of their thoughts in. they are an annoying bunch as well.

stop this slanderous comparison of athiests and religious fanatics. why is that atheists say they don't believe in god nor go to religious cermonies are rediculed and treated like criminals? atheists are reacting to religious coercion and intimidation. atheists don't bring religion in conversations unless somebody asked them their opinions on religion. stop this slanderous nonsense
 

blackrock13

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stop this slanderous comparison of athiests and religious fanatics. why is that atheists say they don't believe in god nor go to religious cermonies are rediculed and treated like criminals? atheists are reacting to religious coercion and intimidation. atheists don't bring religion in conversations unless somebody asked them their opinions on religion. stop this slanderous nonsense
Only certain atheists, not all. It doesn't sound like Simon's daughter is being coerced and intimidated. At least he doesn't think so. You still haven't told us how you know about all the virgins in the church.
 

simon482

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stop this slanderous comparison of athiests and religious fanatics. why is that atheists say they don't believe in god nor go to religious cermonies are rediculed and treated like criminals? atheists are reacting to religious coercion and intimidation. atheists don't bring religion in conversations unless somebody asked them their opinions on religion. stop this slanderous nonsense
pretty sure you are being sarcastic. i have been subject to onslaughts of religious thought by both sides without provocation. both sides are equally annoying with their religious rhetoric.
 

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You still haven't told us how you know about all the virgins in the church.
RC clergy always liked virgins.....they always preferred tight holes.....:thumb:
 

simon482

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Only certain atheists, not all. It doesn't sound like Simon's daughter is being coerced and intimidated. At least he doesn't think so. You still haven't told us how you know about all the virgins in the church.
she asked to go with her grandma one day. she said she enjoyed herself. i was asked if i cared and i said no but when she gets older if she asks me about religion i will be honest with her about it. same with ghosts and whatnot if they are real, she wants to know but i still think she is to young to talk about it.
 

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Only certain atheists, not all. It doesn't sound like Simon's daughter is being coerced and intimidated. At least he doesn't think so. You still haven't told us how you know about all the virgins in the church.
the leadership take vows of celibacy one would naturally assume they are virgins
 

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stop this slanderous comparison of athiests and religious fanatics. why is that atheists say they don't believe in god nor go to religious cermonies are rediculed and treated like criminals? atheists are reacting to religious coercion and intimidation. atheists don't bring religion in conversations unless somebody asked them their opinions on religion. stop this slanderous nonsense
Now I really understand why blackrock13 can't stand your guts.
 

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Now I really understand why blackrock13 can't stand your guts.
i don't care if people don't like me because i don't believe in gods.
 

blackrock13

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the leadership take vows of celibacy one would naturally assume they are virgins
Actually all in the RC Church take that vow, some late in life, after a period of time outside where they may have lost there virginity, but they are human with all the foibles (look it up) which that carries. The Church is often the port of last resort for those who have difficulties with society, the fallen, the misguided and yes even the criminals, maybe even enjoying the ins and outs of carnal knowledge, yet there they get another shot at the gold ring. You've shown on more than one occasion that you suck big time at making assumptions and this one is no different.
 

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Actually all in the RC Church take that vow, some late in life, after a period of time outside where they may have lost there virginity, but they are human with all the foibles (look it up) which that carries. The Church is often the port of last resort for those who have difficulties with society, the fallen, the misguided and yes even the criminals, maybe even enjoying the ins and outs of carnal knowledge, yet there they get another shot at the gold ring. You've shown on more than one occasion that you suck big time at making assumptions and this one is no different.
whatever blackrock13 i hope you have a nice dinner later this evening
 
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