Why men do not approach women.

RZG

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RZG - All I can say is spot on , touche ! Concise , accurate and should be taught in high school or esp private school :)
I love women, probably too deeply. I`ve had numerous l/t relationships and have been married, seen lotsa SP`s over decades. I hope it is a serious caution to the young guys out there. The last thing I`d suggest is stay away from them,...keep your head up and cover your ass, never let them use you or catch you half- steppin`. Do what is best for you because when the shit goes down, and it likely will, you`ll be left standing on a landmine.
 

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This thread started off ok but took a very incel turn at some point. It sucks because a lot of the points raised are valid ones but the delivery needs work.

Also, you missed me with that lady boy ish.
its not incel since the gents on here are getting action either p4p or civies. they are tired of some womens behavior and have gotten the very short end of the stick in various ways due to the legal system. as men we cant change the issues with the points raise since when we try to we are told its our/we are the problem in the first place.

its an impossible battle to win which is why I decided to go my own way, just with hookers :)
 

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This thread started off ok but took a very incel turn at some point. It sucks because a lot of the points raised are valid ones but the delivery needs work.

Also, you missed me with that lady boy ish.
More I think along the lines of MGTOW. Guys on here are seeking females, for numerous reasons. And pretty much all casual encounters without drama or alot of work.
 

Don Draper

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We can easily all be Don Draper. He's not real. Just watch some movies and tv shows about successful and attractive men. Then create an online character and start making up stories to impress others online. Simple.

Indeed, that's exactly my point, my esteemed colleague. Anyone can be "Don Draper". Simple. Find it in yourself.

To use the baseball analogy: do you think Jeter or Griffey weren't nervous the first time they went to bat? Sure they were. They probably struck out or grounded out. Eventually they got a hit, and another and another. So you emphasize what you did CORRECT not what you did WRONG. The confidence builds and the knowledge increases. However, you HAVE to take the swing.

It's the same with women. Work with them with what works for you. Join a wine club if you like wine. Join a cooking class if you like food. Join a sport club if you're athletic. Join a musical society if you like jazz, classical or blues. There's plenty of options.

Escorts are a great 'Plan B'. That option isn't going anywhere. We all know this.

There is no substitute for a woman who is sincerely interested in you and wants to get in bed with you from affection.

As for me personally, I'm not interested in 'impressing' anyone on line who I will never know or meet. My life is just fine and the women in it lovely.

I do like TERB and exchanging info on music, food, sports and yes, women. Some know more than others so everyone can expand their knowledge of their chosen topic.

After all, we all have that in common, don't we?
 

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@DonDrapp this guy is probably talking at a "pick-up" workshop for women. He oversimplifies, and generalizes, but I believe his message to the women is one we'd all like to give them: stop behaving like a horde all wanting the same Prince Charming, open yourself to other men who might not be the best at approaching and give them a chance. From what I understand, he's trying to tell them that awkward moments and clumsy approaches do not mean that the man himself is a loser. I believe he tells these women who are probably lonely that they are missing on very good companions when they reject all approaches that do not look like in the movies.

I think his message is mostly correct, he's not advocating a behavior toward women, he depicts what happens right now, not what should/could happen. It is a crazy world: Movies tell women since childhood that they are going to be approached in a romantic and skilled way by some handsome Prince Charming. The feminists-inspired men hatred teach women that they are superior, that they should treat men in a condescending and despising way. So he's trying to give them reality-check.

We went from a world where men were condescending toward women to the other way around, not very good for relationships….. Compound this with the #metoo movement and you have a recipe for a social disaster, which we're in. Media and entertainment business (porn included!) have put in both our heads that the other should be ideal: slim, ideal boobs, large biceps, successful, dominant, wealthy, a king/queen in bed, accommodating temper, etc.

Some of you mentioned the 20something girls as being scary. I guess it depends in which social group of girls you look. I'm finding as I am getting older that it is even more easy to approach a 20something than when I was their age. I have realized that there is no "competition" between us like there is with someone your age (for e.g. who has the best job). I didn't realize that most of them are interested in older men: they are generally more mature, established and already successful, rather than the guys their age being full of aspirations and promises with nothing to show yet. And at an older age (40s, 50s) we are more experienced being with and talking to women and our social skills are better, let alone our experience in bed. On my side (and I'm not saying this to brag, only to prove my point) at 51, I managed to go out with a stunning 21yo all last winter, without too much effort. Not an escort, not my sugar baby, just a good friend with benefits. I'm curious if anyone has a view about this?
 

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I have seriously considered giving up on western women. since going to thailand it opened my eyes to other lifestyles. Id rather know the cost of spending time with a thai up front then not to know it on the back end cost with a western woman. the treatment and interaction with the ladies there is night and day compared to here.

hell, after seeing some of the lady boys there I may jump ship ;)
Just came back from Bangkok. Girls were superhot had ton of fun with them. I lost interest in western women long ago.
 

RZG

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Indeed, that's exactly my point, my esteemed colleague. Anyone can be "Don Draper". Simple. Find it in yourself.

To use the baseball analogy: do you think Jeter or Griffey weren't nervous the first time they went to bat? Sure they were. They probably struck out or grounded out. Eventually they got a hit, and another and another. So you emphasize what you did CORRECT not what you did WRONG. The confidence builds and the knowledge increases. However, you HAVE to take the swing.

It's the same with women. Work with them with what works for you. Join a wine club if you like wine. Join a cooking class if you like food. Join a sport club if you're athletic. Join a musical society if you like jazz, classical or blues. There's plenty of options.

Escorts are a great 'Plan B'. That option isn't going anywhere. We all know this.

There is no substitute for a woman who is sincerely interested in you and wants to get in bed with you from affection.

As for me personally, I'm not interested in 'impressing' anyone on line who I will never know or meet. My life is just fine and the women in it lovely.

I do like TERB and exchanging info on music, food, sports and yes, women. Some know more than others so everyone can expand their knowledge of their chosen topic.

After all, we all have that in common, don't we?
How`s that song go..."Girls don`t like boys, girls like cars and money". No man should ever dismiss or overlook female hypergamy and Briffault`s Law(look it up). Essentially it states that no association occurs with a male unless it benefits the female, generally in resources or status or security. I`d say all three. I`d wager that every guy on Terb has experienced this, perhaps without giving it a name. Also...how many of us men here have been in a relationship, civvie or pro, where she says " what can I contribute, share or give to him/the relationship." Precious few is likely, it`s all about "what can I get, what can I take?". Again... the line from Nicky in Casino, " It`s always about the money."
 

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That's a awesome video, thank you. Yeah I never get approached by men like NEVER. So I'm going to try to be easy..lol and smile more. This better work damn it!!
 

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Picking a chick out of a bunch of hens was always a pain in the ass... That's what wingmen are for. If you're solo, you have to bring the numbers down.

While seeing SPs can be fun, I don't think you can beat that thrill of meeting and talking to a woman you've just met and are interested in... Sometimes I crashed and burned, but some encounters were reciprocal and fun (leading at times to sex) and others a pure rush - especially when she sought me out (I'd end up dating those particular women for years).

It takes two to Tango of course... Maybe the current dating situation is completely different than it was in my day (you needed a pen and a piece of paper).

The main thing I got from the video was that if women want to meet guys, they should be open to being approached and invite/encourage it.

Typically, guys will always have to make the move and try. One difference between a man and a woman is that a woman will always know when she's going to have sex.
I get it and i'm sure a lot of the gentlemen here too...the rush feeling of hunting down a prey in the wild with pure skill boost the ego like no other...but the risk reward ratio is no longer proportionate...the metoo movement has pushed back too far that men started to feel the game is rigged...
 

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Some of you mentioned the 20something girls as being scary. I guess it depends in which social group of girls you look. I'm finding as I am getting older that it is even more easy to approach a 20something than when I was their age. I have realized that there is no "competition" between us like there is with someone your age (for e.g. who has the best job). I didn't realize that most of them are interested in older men: they are generally more mature, established and already successful, rather than the guys their age being full of aspirations and promises with nothing to show yet. And at an older age (40s, 50s) we are more experienced being with and talking to women and our social skills are better, let alone our experience in bed. On my side (and I'm not saying this to brag, only to prove my point) at 51, I managed to go out with a stunning 21yo all last winter, without too much effort. Not an escort, not my sugar baby, just a good friend with benefits. I'm curious if anyone has a view about this?[/QUOTE]

Probably due to not being pumped and dumped for an additional 20 or 30 years as their entitlement, bitterness and bitchiness amass. They are taught from an early age that they are " The Prize" with the golden vag. BTW... 21, how`d you get her to put her phone away?
 

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I texted her when I needed her attention! Lmao!
LMFAO this is so true! Its ridiculous how many girls you see nowadays with their heads planted in their phones especially on dates and same with guys...I am so glad I already planted my seed and passed this mating/courting/dating scene and don’t need to put up with this head buried in phones fad. Whenever I get a pussy craving its only a phone call away to my fave MPA/SP which contain some of the best girls in the world aka grade A pussy and no need for this bullshit time wasters on flakes.

Man when prostitution becomes legal it will be a game changer and most of these problems will be solved. Who fucking has time time to date flakes anymore? I am not saying they are all flakes but I tend to agree there are a lot of women flaky AF.
 

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Man when prostitution becomes legal it will be a game changer and most of these problems will be solved. Who fucking has time time to date flakes anymore? I am not saying they are all flakes but I tend to agree there are a lot of women flaky AF.[/QUOTE]

That would be good...however I can`t see it happening. Too much pushback from the feminists, metoo and moral outrage activists. They know that when accessing pussy goes mainstream they have lost the last thing they have to control men. But.. what do I know, I never saw legal weed or L.A. getting NHL hockey happening. BTW.. can you please PM me some of your fave SP`s. Thank you.
 

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That's a awesome video, thank you. Yeah I never get approached by men like NEVER. So I'm going to try to be easy..lol and smile more. This better work damn it!!

Its harder to approach girls when they look like or better than most models. It's is you. You need to go out in 1880s women clothing so men can approach you.
 

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LMFAO this is so true! Its ridiculous how many girls you see nowadays with their heads planted in their phones especially on dates and same with guys.... W/QUOTE]

I'm about 50% serious buddy! If you want someone from this generation, you have to be part of their world somehow... I'm not taking about dressing like a teenage kid, but using a smartphone wisely makes you relevant.

But anyhow, this thread is about approaching women...
 

giajolie

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Its harder to approach girls when they look like or better than most models. It's is you. You need to go out in 1880s women clothing so men can approach you.
HA!!! If you seen my everyday clothes. Im a jogging pants and tshirt girl and Im very chill. Maybe your assuming I dress to the nines but nope.

Honestly I think its because Im always on the go and look busy like the guy stated in the video. I should smile more and take a minute.
 
I really find stereotyping like a lot of the comments in this thread distasteful.

What he says is true, that we women have to make ourselves more approachable for the desirable guys. I met mine through a mutual activity, pool league, so we already have something in common. He impressed me because he didn't hit on me hard like the so called players, he simply offered to buy me a drink one night, dropped it off and told me I even looked good in glasses (I was keeping score), then went back to his teammates. It was all very laid back. I turned to one of my mates who used to play on a team with him and said, "I think he likes me. I'm interested in him but I really need a nice guy." He assured me that he's one of the good ones. Shortly after that I switched nights and didn't see him again. I started hanging out at the place he played pool for and quickly ran into him. He saw his opportunity and asked me for my number. Everything's been great so far and I don't see that changing any time soon.

He's a divorcee who hardly ever speaks of his ex and never puts her down when he does, which is how things should be. We've slowly gotten to know each other over time as we're both older and understand there's no rush. I have my little house and he has his, so no ones taking advantage of anyone. We're always respectful to each other. He does nice things for me and I do nice things for him. I get hit on a lot but he's the only one that impressed me and continues to do so. A big part of that is because he's confident, so doesn't get upset when guys chat me up, etc. He knows I'm going home with him and takes it as a compliment.

It took us both a long time to find each other but kind people do exist on both sides of the fence.

Some of you really need to stop hating on all women!
 

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Western women are self centered, egotistical bitches who I can't stand the sight of......then I leave my house and within minutes I see one that I want to sit on my face until we need bathroom breaks, then she can continue.

I have nothing against western women as they want to fuck as bad as we do. I'm sure most are happy with a guy with a job, no addictions, provide food and shelter, the odd holiday. Girls masterbate more than we do. Approaching them where they don't feel threatened is a key, grocery stores etc. I wouldn't recommend bars ever in my experience.
 

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