Why JT wants to end Freedom Convoy demonstration in Ottawa

Frankfooter

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Looks can be very deceiving. I am pretty sure you can't buy a truck for the amounts you receive from the government ....you can may be survive ..barely
Exactly, they can survive on government handouts and then take their trucks to Ottawa in the hopes of getting the big payout from givesendgo and the Americans.

yep, they still there...bunch of live streams
Probably not for much longer for those 100 or so who are left.
 
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Frankfooter

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so that's how you see it ? a bunch of entitled truckers came to Ottawa hoping to get big bucks and have a rave ?
Yup, two white supremacists and two western separatists organized this convoy to drive over and demand the government resign.
Once the donations started coming in a bunch of people joined in to get paid and join the party.
$9 million buys you a good party.

Now they're all shitting bricks because its clear they won't get that money and instead they are losing jobs and insurance.
 

nottyboi

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You think it is because it is violent and he worries about Ottawans' safety. Or because it is too inconvenient for Ottawans? Well, based on the recent post in Yahoo (which is even more left than CBC) it is because he cannot stand a party atmosphere and hot tubs. Do not believe me? Read for yourself: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-trucker-protest-live-image-113636076.html

And here is the part of that post that says it all:

Sources familiar with his government’s decision said Mr Trudeau and others were tipped “over the edge” by the almost party atmosphere among protesters in downtown Ottawa at the weekend, with scenes including a hot tub, Reuters reported.

“Like other residents in Ottawa, I have watched in disbelief as this carnival chaos has been allowed to continue,” said Diane Deans, chair of the Ottawa Police Services Board, to the AP.
Your conclusions are idiotic
 

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How many hundreds of millions has this movement cost our economy. How much reputational damage has it inflicted for foreign investment. I will be quite happy to see them crushed. They were adequately warned, and made their choice.
Yea, do not stand up to the bully. And bullies are usually quite popular and have support of majority of people.
 

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the freedumbs are bullying the locals. The govt is acting to correct the situation. Like the trash that they are, they have outstayed their welcome.
Well, standing up to the bully can be uncomfortable for the whole school, especially who really like that pretty quarterback. Why or why this nerds have a nerve to stand up against our adored captain of the school football team.
 

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so that's how you see it ? a bunch of entitled truckers came to Ottawa hoping to get big bucks and have a rave ?
ROTFLMFAO!! That was the original plan, right after they overthrew the Queen.
 
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How many hundreds of millions has this movement cost our economy. How much reputational damage has it inflicted for foreign investment. I will be quite happy to see them crushed. They were adequately warned, and made their choice.
While I want them gone also it appears from the various news stories his use of the Emergency Declaration is doing far worse. Foreign govt officials are calling out his hypocrisy for his own denouncements in their nations. Freezing accounts look bad as well to investors. People see this suspension of civil liberties for what many are calling violations of parking and noise ordinances as extreme and heavy handed.

Hopefully they clear it quickly with no violence. If that occurs we will look far worse.
 
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did you see videos on these counter-protesters ? did you see how aggressive they were ? what flags they carried ?
I am asking because I did see, and that's not a good site indeed
I guess they were pretty mad about having their lives and their kids' lives fucked up by the kkkonvoy, huh?

How unreasonable!
 
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Looks can be very deceiving. I am pretty sure you can't buy a truck for the amounts you receive from the government ....you can may be survive ..barely

Paper rank means not much. Canada is THE ONLY western country where millions cannot leave the country (I mean normally - plane/boat) unless vaccinated
so go figure these rankings. And now when we have more and more countries dropping these mandates, Canada (rather our PM) still insisting otherwise.
You do realize many countries have rules where they won't let unvaccinated people in....right? Or fly on a plane. Or they need to be quarantined for a period. This is such a bullshit response since the majority of Canadians are vaccinated.


As for the hot tubs and stage shows in Ottawa...That sort of thing is not beyond criticism. I mean, imagine the outrage if BLM or First Nations protesters did the same thing? It really hurts the credibility of the KKKonvoy. Now, I sort of doubt that is what sent Trudeau over the edge, but you never know.
 

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I don't see a problem if a country doesn't allow FOREIGN CITIZENS in for some reason, I see a problem when a country (in our case the only one in the West)
not allowing their OWN CITIZENS to move freely, you still don't see the difference ?

Right, BLM with hot tubs and stage shows ? BLM burned city blocks to the ground, beat and killed people, looted, destroyed businesses - did you see a martial
law declared ? Did you see martial law declared when the rail road was blocked 2 years ago ?
It only bothers the left when the right protests and vice versa. The left protests broke the law and they said nothing. Now in Canada the right is breaking the law and the right is saying nothing. Both sides are so entrenched they can't see the forest for the trees. It really bothers me when the left calls all the truckers the KKKonvoy and when the right called all the BLM protesters criminals and thugs. There are bad apples in both groups, not doubt but not the majority. You guys just add to the problem, not make it any better.
 
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nottyboi

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Well, standing up to the bully can be uncomfortable for the whole school, especially who really like that pretty quarterback. Why or why this nerds have a nerve to stand up against our adored captain of the school football team.
THey are not nerds they are thugs, rabble, bullies and trash.
 
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How many hundreds of millions has this movement cost our economy. How much reputational damage has it inflicted for foreign investment. I will be quite happy to see them crushed. They were adequately warned, and made their choice.
Actually the blockade at the Ambassador bridge alone was set around 4.5 billion dollars in trade alone not including lost wages by the over 1 million workers idled on each side of the border.
Ottawa blockade has caused over 500 businesses to be closed not to mention the libraries, museums, theatres and now the university has went to online only as harrasment of students has become a concern.
Companies in the US are eyeing pulling factories from Canada and moving them to the US to secure a reliable supply route.
The damage these few have done to the economy is worse than covid has since they left BC.
Data shows that the cross border mandate had no effect on runs between Canada and the US once it was implemented and in actual fact there was an increase in the number of trucks crossing in the days following.
 

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You do realize many countries have rules where they won't let unvaccinated people in....right? Or fly on a plane. Or they need to be quarantined for a period. This is such a bullshit response since the majority of Canadians are vaccinated.


As for the hot tubs and stage shows in Ottawa...That sort of thing is not beyond criticism. I mean, imagine the outrage if BLM or First Nations protesters did the same thing? It really hurts the credibility of the KKKonvoy. Now, I sort of doubt that is what sent Trudeau over the edge, but you never know.
Yet we still have 20% of our health care workers unvaxxed. It just all doesn't make sense.
 

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Actually the blockade at the Ambassador bridge alone was set around 4.5 billion dollars in trade alone not including lost wages by the over 1 million workers idled on each side of the border.
Ottawa blockade has caused over 500 businesses to be closed not to mention the libraries, museums, theatres and now the university has went to online only as harrasment of students has become a concern.
Companies in the US are eyeing pulling factories from Canada and moving them to the US to secure a reliable supply route.
The damage these few have done to the economy is worse than covid has since they left BC.
Data shows that the cross border mandate had no effect on runs between Canada and the US once it was implemented and in actual fact there was an increase in the number of trucks crossing in the days following.
The Ottawa business closures are not so easy to calculate. What caused them to close? Blocked streets meant not enough customer traffic? Fear of vandalism that didn’t happen? Refusal to serve protesters? Seems like the coffee shops and eateries were foolish to close, provided they could be staffed, as the protesters would have spent a fortune there.

Good luck to the US if they think they can find more reliable trading partners than Canada. That one is like complaining about your wife when you know she’s 10 times better than your alternatives!
 

PeteOsborne

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The Ottawa business closures are not so easy to calculate. What caused them to close? Blocked streets meant not enough customer traffic? Fear of vandalism that didn’t happen? Refusal to serve protesters? Seems like the coffee shops and eateries were foolish to close, provided they could be staffed, as the protesters would have spent a fortune there.

Good luck to the US if they think they can find more reliable trading partners than Canada. That one is like complaining about your wife when you know she’s 10 times better than your alternatives!
The businesses would be open if the blockade wasn't there, easy to figure.
Factories closing in Canada means less GDP, less wages earned, less spending, more taxes to supplement income. This is easy to figure out as well.
 

Dutch Oven

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The businesses would be open if the blockade wasn't there, easy to figure.
Factories closing in Canada means less GDP, less wages earned, less spending, more taxes to supplement income. This is easy to figure out as well.
Not so easy to figure. Why are coffee shops closed? There’s plenty of foot traffic there. My bet is they were scared into believing there would be vandalism and violence (which hasn’t happened), and that some of them would just refuse to serve stinky high school educated truckers who don’t know that you shouldn’t get all sweaty and dirty when you work.

Don’t you find it ironic that Ottawa blocked off Sparks street to create a pedestrian shopping area to help local businesses, and the trucker protest just expands on that area, yet businesses can’t be open?
 
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