I heard this for the first time recently. I certainly didn’t bring up TERB, I thought it was weird that she did. It must suck, but it’s the nature of any kind of review board.
It’s been said before, but this is a review board. It would be almost entirely useless to me and a lot of others if we left out anything negative about our encounters in reviews.
I think it would suck to read any review about yourself here, but it’s a necessity if you think you need to dispel false information or want provide counterbalance to a complaint.
sempel, if I was with a provider and there were hygiene issues, I could let her or her agency know and stay silent on the board about it. Or I could communicate privately AND inform the board in the hopes that my friend sempel doesn’t have a similarly bad experience should he choose to see the same provider. Or I could post it publicly without reaching out to her. Or I could just lurk. Some options help the board and your fellow members, others may not.
I’ve said it before, I’m here for information and reviews, not to develop any kind of relationship with anyone in the industry that goes beyond the established boundaries of the client-provider exchange.
Spend a few minutes on Terb and if one has common sense they'll realize it's not a very friendly environment for most ladies. There are ways of describing encounters, good and bad, that are factual, not overly mean, and just give what people need - some basic info to help make a decision. I would say more positive reviews are tolerable but even some of those go overboard. What I think it comes down to is this forum is treated like a men's locker room. There's probably a lot of things you would say amongst the boys that you wouldn't want your ladies, especially your SO, to hear. Arguably if this was a men's only environment it may go over well (I personally don't think locker room talk should be as bad as it is but that's just me). When you're with the boys you just go with it. But this is not the case. Besides ladies being on here, some of those ladies are the subject of the comments. The funny thing is there are a ton of white knight types that will yell to high heaven that about bullying, bad experiences ladies share, and other negative things as being bad but apparently detailing an experience with a woman is ok even if she could read it and feel like shit because it's mean.
If you've seen the Simpson's episode where Homer becomes a food critic, you'll see that he starts out as positive (and I think he enjoyed things). At some point he turns negative and even Lisa says he's being unnecessarily mean. Yes, criticism is not going to make everyone feel great, but if a provider sees a bad review, hopefully it contains constructive criticism not just a bunch of negative insults.
If a lady has a hygiene issue for example, yes I believe the best course of action is to let her or her agency know. What purpose does it serve to simply put it in a review, hoping she'll see it and change? That's basically public embarrassment/shaming and if the lady is a nice person with a positive attitude, you've just put a black mark on her. Congratulations!
If you are so inclined to warn others, at the very least warn her too and put it down in the review that you did so everyone knows she's aware (and likely to address it). I saw a provider and when we started she was a little cold/businesslike/stiff. By the end she was open, conversational, and relaxed. I sent her a PM telling her she should start out that way. My review included all this - so I've warned other guys, SP has been given feedback, hopefully she fixes, and if she doesn't the next guy can confirm she didn't. Seems like a simple thing to me.
This is a good idea: Though some flaws: How ladies are with one gentleman wont be the same as another. Just like services. For me; I have low tolerance for stupid, yet why bother saying anything to the visitor when all I have to do is not see them again. And how much skin off my back does it take to be kind even if their stupid. ** Do you really want to know this ?? ** Likely not.
Marketing in this business is slightly more subjective then most. Do you pick a lawyer based on personality ? or based on services and get the job done ? Our personalities are profiled in everything we put online, every time someone chooses us over another gal. We are in the spot light all the time, without much we can do about it. Being professional in this business is how we communicate with our clientele and how we treat other women online.
In my experience, which is limited :yo:; men like competent women, playful and easy to be around. Most who hire are strong determined men who just need a little distraction from their demanding lives. Conversations should be light, but often times they're not. We are sharing some of the most intimate things with another human being for money.
Reviews are meant to help men decide they're not getting a dud, but that doesn't guarantee the same experience. Does that mean she's YMMV, NO it means we are human and not everyone clicks. Review boards are great marketing, and a good way to learn about this business, but asking us to put more of whom we are online is redundant. We already DO !!
Some SP's are on here frequently so we do get a glimpse of their personality. That said, I've contacted a few ladies who seemed nice on Terb but were very anal about booking, discussing services, length of emails, etc. Some SP's openly state some of their peeves and issues but it's all over the place. I'm all about one-stop shopping - put it somewhere where it's easily found - again, maybe a thread isn't the best way - I'd be satisfied if the info were available (and crystal clear) either in ads, Twitter, and/or websites.
The info would not be up for discussion - if a lady says she wants a deposit for new clients, that's the info. Don't need a bunch of comments about it. But some providers don't put info like this anywhere and it's only made known after contacting. So, now a guy who doesn't do deposits has wasted his time, and the SP has wasted hers responding to an inquiry that will not result in a booking.
I know people who do choose certain services (doctors, lawyers) based on personality. Some will choose on price, some will choose on effectiveness.
Here's some questions - are there things that if guys knew going in before seeing you and they did those things, your experiences would be better? If there were things you enjoyed that some guys would enjoy doing or having done to them, would it be mores sensible to make that info known?
I've read tons of reviews. But, most reviews don't talk about the little things that made a session better that may appeal to some guys. Most reviews might say lady is conversational and friendly but who knows what you talked about that gave the fellow that opinion? I've seen reviews on girls saying they are conversational duds but I had some amazing chats with them because I found a few subjects they enjoyed discussing. Imagine if other guys knew what these were?
I saw one lady for 45 min for our first appointment. After, I was in contact and she mentioned she prefers 1 hour for first timers. We'd been in contact prior and she'd not mentioned this. Now, if she makes that info available (she's an agency girl BTW so no ads), that would have been appreciated. Now, was it a bad session? No - overall it was great. But it wasn't great for her because of this.
Might not be entirely related to OP thread, buut it seems there are so many threads from newbies where they want the forum to make their decision on who to see and ensure 110% satisfaction. I say find a lady who looks good to you, email her (if indy), grow a pair and go see her. It's not rocket science. I would also suggest that every date won't be 110% and if you are concerned about spending 200 on an unsatisfactory experience, perhaps switch to stamp collecting.
I get sick of lazy newbies who ask questions that are easily answered if they spent 5-10 min doing some research and figuring out a few things for themselves. If you are looking for a blond SP, tall, European, you can find out who fits the bill, search for reviews, and figure out a few possibilities. Just asking for others to give recommendations because you don't want to put in some basic effort is unwanted.
If a provider were to start a thread on themselves it would be labelled as shilling. It's no win. I think the smartest providers know that their presence on non-advertising forums should be to contribute, not self promote. Personally I think that many of them are more attractive because of the intelligence of their posts. Having a link to their websites or twitter pages in their signature line is enough. Going the other way, some providers can put themselves in the "not with a ten foot pole" category. How providers as well as customers conduct themselves on forums is a pretty good glimpse into their personalities and how they'll conduct themselves in an appointment.
First of all, I say any providers who contribute to forums are automatically self-promoting, regardless of their intent. Some have info in their signatures so it's easy to get info when they say something that appeals to you in some way. Yes, they might contribute hoping to answer general questions, provide PSA's, etc. but their very presence is a form of promotion. Of course, nothing wrong with this but that's the case.
Second, the point is not so much self-promotion so much as making things clear and precise to better match providers with clients, reduce inquiries overall, and let guys know how to act before and during, specific to the provider.
Someone pointed out this would be a dating profile. Since some ladies refer to appointments as dates, is that so wrong? Now, I'm not suggesting anything to the point where I know absolutely everything about a provider going in. I'm not hoping to make a lifelong connection in one encounter. But I prefer to avoid stepping on any toes and making every experience as good as possible and I would hope most guys and providers feel the same.
