Why do hobbyist get ridiculed when they become attached to an SP?

[Jasmine Raine]

Jessica, I never said you can't have your own opinion about what love is. I never said you insulted anyone. (Others have, but you haven't that I've seen.) I never said that you judged me. (I said - in a reply to teach and not to you - that we shouldn't be judgemental.) You say that I'm the one who's taking this personally, but you're the one who thinks everything I say - even though I'm not replying to you - is directed to you. It isn't, Jessica. You're not in the background of every thought or opinion that I have. And when you say "you guys" I'm not sure what you mean. If you're including me as "you guys" - I've never said that I'm "in love" with an escort. I have said that emotional attachments are fine. I've said it's fine to have feelings for an escort you're regular with. I've said that I like to stick with one girl because I like the feel of a relationship without the commitment or drama of a relationship. And I've said that as long as proper boundaries are maintained and no harm is done then live and let live.

To be honest - it sounds to me like we agree on pretty much everything except that I have a less stringent definition of what love is than you do and I'm happy to discuss that and share opinions. But somehow you're finding a way to take offense and to interpret everything I say as a criticism of you. So, who's taking this personally?

When you quote me, I'm going to assume you are addressing me. You asked me why I feel the need to correct people on their feelings of love. It would also be logical to assume that since you are taking the one side of the talking point that what you say in debate to my and others overall counterpoint would also mean you are speaking in part to me. So asking me why I feel the need to correct people and asking why Teach feels the need to judge would appear you have the same opinion of both of us and our points of view. Teach has quoted and agreed with my posts. What is said to one, in some respects, applies to the other. So as you can see, I'm not taking it personally. I'm debating a point in an open discussion. There is a difference.

I have already said I don't care what you do but based on your replies here to everyone, it really does appear that you are taking it personally. I'm only discussing the topic, you are telling people what they should be doing and invalidating their opinions because they don't coincide with your own. You have often said you are greatly emotional with your sessions. Not just in this thread. So as you can see, it is pretty clear who has a personal stake in this debate.

But again and honestly for the last time; I'm willing to agree to disagree. Have a wonderful day.

 

[Wappa]

Lol. Actually I do. Good one. Secret? Google it. You fuckers are so myopic, you miss the entire fucking point. That is why humanity is truly fucked. Everyone misses the most fucking obvious thing in the room and instead argue about "views". Lol.

You are humanity’s shining hope...with your positive and respectful contributions, keen intellect and sharp wit.

 

[User 123]

Not going to bother reading all the arguing in this thread, but the answer to this question is simple. It’s the internet... Motives will vary, but it’s usually because they take pleasure in anonymously putting others down, and or to boost their own ego.

That being said... I believe what Jessica said is all that needs to be said. Love is a two way street, otherwise it’s just lust / infatuation.

 

[james t kirk]

Because the crowd figures you're getting played.

That's never a good thing.

But the truth is that anything is possible. Just don't end up being a made a fool is all.

 

[SexB]

That being said... I believe what Jessica said is all that needs to be said. Love is a two way street, otherwise it’s just lust / infatuation.

I'm sure that there are plenty of ladies who have clients they enjoy spending time with but I think that's about as far as it goes.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

I'm sure that there are plenty of ladies who have clients they enjoy spending time with but I think that's about as far as it goes.

At the end of the day all this is opinions and speculation.

What matters is action.

Have you ever had an MPA invite you over her condo and have her make dinner knowing the fact that you are married with kids and have no interest in pursuing relationships outside the marriage. So how do you explain this? She wants nothing extra out of you but to show you some appreciation. You still see her in the MPA and pay and tip for the session. There is some form of love there even if it is companionship love.

How about during the session when you hold her tight and she says she can feel your heart beating and starts crying and she says we look so right together when she glances in our reflection in the mirror holding each other. You can feel hear heart as well and know you have synced. The session finishes you pay, close the door and never experience this moment again. At the moment it felt real, some type of love was created but both knew it could never work.

Like I said actions speak louder than words, speculation and opinions. Some people will never experience and some who come across it will not understand what it is. It does happen and will continue to happen regardless of the ignorant things people say about it.

 

[Spacealien2]

How about during the session when you hold her tight and she says she can feel your heart beating and starts crying and she says we look so right together when she glances in our reflection in the mirror holding each other. You can feel hear heart as well and know you have synced. The session finishes you pay, close the door and never experience this moment again. At the moment it felt real, some type of love was created but both knew it could never work.

I'm going to be that guy. But the next session some Chad is fucking her good and she's crying for him to fuck her harder. Then she forgets all about the last guy.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

I'm going to be that guy. But the next session some Chad is fucking her good and she's crying for him to fuck her harder. Then she forgets all about the last guy.

It doesn’t matter what she does after of with whom. It felt nice at the time and the moment. It would be selfish to not want her to experience and live life outside your moment.

How many times can you say you experienced it? I already know the real answer knowing how you replied above.

Guess what I am still married with the same wife and kids and live a happy life, with lots of money and happy family...can you say the same? That’s what I thought. Keep pretending ...it will serve you well.

 

[harryass]

duh cuz we're all jealous! haha.

Paid service don't equal love Sucka if yah think otherwise.

 

[Spacealien2]

It doesn’t matter what she does after of with whom. It felt nice at the time and the moment. It would be selfish to not want her to experience and live life outside your moment.

How many times can you say you experienced it? I already know the real answer knowing how you replied above.

Guess what I am still married with the same wife and kids and live a happy life, with lots of money and happy family...can you say the same? That’s what I thought. Keep pretending ...it will serve you well.

You just sounded a bit mad right there...

 

[Spunky1]

You just sounded a bit mad right there...

....and just a tad stalker-ish .

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

You just sounded a bit mad right there...

Suck it, you’ll love it!

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

....and just a tad stalker-ish .

Ohh look its the peanut gallery joining the party :thumb:

Why not join your tool boy and suck it together.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

Instead of these silly deflection games to all the LOVE haters answer this simple question:

When was the last time you actually made love to your partner, regardless of being SP or not.

How many of you actually know what it is to make love to someone or have you ever made love or experienced this?

I don’t really care about the answer however it is quite clear why so many people find the love word so taboo. And yea, you can be married to someone and make love to them and have a fling and still keep it real and make love to the other person regardless if they are your fling at work or some random SP or someone you meet at a coffee shop or dental office.

The Europeans understand this type of lifestyle especially the Italians and the Spanish and the health benefits of making love to more than one partner. The North America culture are scared shitless of this word and this experience. In some countries you can make love without strings and is considered perfectly normal. Here they teach you to just fuck without emotions and if you show any you are considered weak sauce. lol

 

[Jasmine Raine]

Instead of these silly deflection games to all the LOVE haters answer this simple question:

When was the last time you actually made love to your partner, regardless of being SP or not.

How many of you actually know what it is to make love to someone or have you ever made love or experienced this?

I don’t really care about the answer however it is quite clear why so many people find the love word so taboo. And yea, you can be married to someone and make love to them and have a fling and still keep it real and make love to the other person regardless if they are your fling at work or some random SP or someone you meet at a coffee shop or dental office.

The Europeans understand this type of lifestyle especially the Italians and the Spanish and the health benefits of making love to more than one partner. The North America culture are scared shitless of this word and this experience. In some countries you can make love without strings and is considered perfectly normal. Here they teach you to just fuck without emotions and if you show any you are considered weak sauce. lol

You ask the question and then don't want an answer. That makes perfect sense. So basically you just want to hear yourself talk, want us to hear you but don't want to listen to our opinion in return. Sorry buddy. It does not work that way.

And buddy, you are not all that because you have a wife and kids and money. Do you know how many on the board have that. Like 90% of my clients. People have money on this board. If they didn't they wouldn't be hobbling.

You are not "making love" to a hooker. Sorry but you are not. You can fuck her or your fling but you are not making love. You have the right to believe that however and you have the right to be wrong while doing it.

I just don't get why you are so mad. And why you are insulting others by calling them weak. No one said you can't fuck without emotion. Just that the emotion is lust or passion or desire. But not love. We in the west understand this more I guess. Maybe we are more in tune with our emotions. Who knows.

The reason people are trying to tell you and other these things is because people can get wrapped up into what they think is love and can be really emotionally or financially hurt by others abusing that emotion. We are actually trying to help. You don't want it but it is not just about you now it is.

There was just a guy posting about wanting to connect with a 20-year-old escort that doesn't want to fuck him and has had sessions where he paid and they didn't fuck. He wants to make love and she doesn't even want to touch him. He is being taken for a ride because of his idea of love and her and them and blah, blah, blah. Love and all the other feelings that resemble love like list and passion and desire can be dangerous. Just like hate, anger etc. Emotions need to be properly identified and kept in check. For the emotional safety of everyone. Maybe I can identify emotions better because of my past work in mental health. Who knows.

But again, you don't want to hear this, so don't read it and move on because it is not all about you.

 

[spraggamuffin]

"Not 70/30 not 60/40 talkin bout a 50 /50 love"

I'm guessing people see you as naïve.

Why do you think you always hear those stories of old where rich gentlemen would hide their wealth etc to see if she really loved me for me or for what I have.

As far as you, yeah you're gonna lust as this hobby is physical, and so many confuse the physical lust with actual Love.

 

[Smallcock]

Reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode where a man convicted of a serious crime is sent to live on a planet in solitude. After living alone for years, the government ships out a female robot to be his companion. She looks like a human, can cry, can learn, can feel pain. He gives her a name and falls in love with her. When the man is finally cleared of his charges and is to be taken back to Earth he wants to bring his female companion back too. He demands it even though there is not enough room for her, so finally the troops have to shoot and destroy his female companion to remind him that she was just a robot. After she is shot, the wires and mechanics of her robot body can be seen by him. Only then does he relent and accept that what is seen or felt is not always true.

 

[jcpro]

You ask the question and then don't want an answer. That makes perfect sense. So basically you just want to hear yourself talk, want us to hear you but don't want to listen to our opinion in return. Sorry buddy. It does not work that way.

And buddy, you are not all that because you have a wife and kids and money. Do you know how many on the board have that. Like 90% of my clients. People have money on this board. If they didn't they wouldn't be hobbling.

You are not "making love" to a hooker. Sorry but you are not. You can fuck her or your fling but you are not making love. You have the right to believe that however and you have the right to be wrong while doing it.

I just don't get why you are so mad. And why you are insulting others by calling them weak. No one said you can't fuck without emotion. Just that the emotion is lust or passion or desire. But not love. We in the west understand this more I guess. Maybe we are more in tune with our emotions. Who knows.

The reason people are trying to tell you and other these things is because people can get wrapped up into what they think is love and can be really emotionally or financially hurt by others abusing that emotion. We are actually trying to help. You don't want it but it is not just about you now it is.

There was just a guy posting about wanting to connect with a 20-year-old escort that doesn't want to fuck him and has had sessions where he paid and they didn't fuck. He wants to make love and she doesn't even want to touch him. He is being taken for a ride because of his idea of love and her and them and blah, blah, blah. Love and all the other feelings that resemble love like list and passion and desire can be dangerous. Just like hate, anger etc. Emotions need to be properly identified and kept in check. For the emotional safety of everyone. Maybe I can identify emotions better because of my past work in mental health. Who knows.

But again, you don't want to hear this, so don't read it and move on because it is not all about you.

I like you. You're not my cup of tea, but you're a woman after my own heart. That's right. The purpose of this activity is the fulfillment of our physical desires. Anyone who gets involved emotionally is a fool and an half a man. We pay women to use their bodies, to fuck them 10 ways to Sunday and go home exhausted, but with a smile. I don't care if you get an orgasm or that you enjoy yourself. I don't care what you say, although i much appreciate personality and good humor, but im assuming that whatever you tell me is for my benefit and ...fiction. You get what you want and I get mine. At best, it is lust, but too many confuse it with love. Hence, this whole stupid conversation.

 

[autumn96]

People get laughed at because

#1 - This is not only the internet, where people are always laughing at others, it is an anonymous site on the internet.

#2 - Many people who come here and say they have fallen in love with an escort exhibit "no I swear I'm different" syndrome and ignore the fact that many, many of us have experienced that before them and it's a complete waste of time.

#3 - Falling in love with an escort presents very real threats to her personal safety since men (especially awkward and emotionally unstable young men who hobby as their only source of banging women, which is the vibe many "help, I fell in love with an escort" types give off) do not behave rationally when they are in love. Mocking the shit out of these men is a great way of reminding them of how silly the entire situation is.

 

[J.A. Prufrock]

Reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode where a man convicted of a serious crime is sent to live on a planet in solitude. After living alone for years, the government ships out a female robot to be his companion. She looks like a human, can cry, can learn, can feel pain. He gives her a name and falls in love with her. When the man is finally cleared of his charges and is to be taken back to Earth he wants to bring his female companion back too. He demands it even though there is not enough room for her, so finally the troops have to shoot and destroy his female companion to remind him that she was just a robot. After she is shot, the wires and mechanics of her robot body can be seen by him. Only then does he relent and accept that what is seen or felt is not always true.

I cried when she got shot.