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Don't post Shapiro disagreeing with something. That adds to its credibility. A dishonest takedown of DiAngelo's book isn't helpful when it has real flaws..
 
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So much cuckism these days. People with "white guilt" are pathetic. It's all a power play by those with less to get more. Plain and simple.
With the exception of saints like Mother Theresa, everybody wants to have more. It's fairness and justice that everybody needs, but not everyone wants. No more Rolling Stones for the Donald...
 

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White Fragility: the term is meant to describe any defensive instincts or reactions that a white person experiences when questioned about race or made to consider their own race. White Fragility , views racism in the North America as systemic and often perpetuated unconsciously by individuals.

White Fragility serves to be a defensive response by a white person when their whiteness is highlighted or mentioned, or their worldview is challenged, whether this response is conscious or otherwise. Examples include a white man accusing someone of "playing the race card" or a white woman (Karen) crying to avoid conflict. The term proposes that white people are used to viewing themselves as "raceless" or the "default" race, and as such are insulated from feelings of racial discomfort. It describes racism as systematic rather than overt and conscious, arguing that racial segregation has shaped the United States. Research points that children aged 3 upwards believe it better to be white in North America.

Excellent conversation tonight with friends over this term. Imagine being shaped by a socio/educational system that tells you the great men in history were noble, benevolent creatures. Your parents were taught this, your Grandparents were taught this, it goes back several centuries. You're conditioned to believe in this. Then, as it turns out, these 'Great Men' were slave owners, traders, bigamists, hypocrites, blowhards and opportunists. Most likely, their great deeds were done by Black, Brown or Asian people and they just took the credit.

A couple of my friends were just gobsmacked and had no answers to give (this is a 'Face to Face' conversation, no anonymous board to hide behind). One was so incensed that he left the table (the rest of us paid his bill). Then my friend "Rick", super good guy, as Canadian as you can get, married to a Bollywood Beauty said: "I know I'm a suburban white guy that never had any sort of money or health problems. Somewhere down the line, I must have said or done something nasty to somebody. I'm hoping I didn't mean it. I hope I never do it again."

I paid for Rick's dinner.
I wonder if it was only "Rick" who realized that he was a racist, did Don realise how much of a racist he is too or was it more like a lecture than a conversion?
 

mandrill

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To the Romans, black slaves made very good gladiators, they started migrating into Central Egypt when it was a direct protectorate of Rome. Once the Arabs established their Caliphate they routinely enslaved and converted blacks. But for the Europeans it was nothing more than naked capitalism.

Italians also castrated and sold Italians to the Arabs to be eunuch slaves, IV. Those were nasty times and mean men did bad stuff.
 

mandrill

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White Fragility: the term is meant to describe any defensive instincts or reactions that a white person experiences when questioned about race or made to consider their own race. White Fragility , views racism in the North America as systemic and often perpetuated unconsciously by individuals.

White Fragility serves to be a defensive response by a white person when their whiteness is highlighted or mentioned, or their worldview is challenged, whether this response is conscious or otherwise. Examples include a white man accusing someone of "playing the race card" or a white woman (Karen) crying to avoid conflict. The term proposes that white people are used to viewing themselves as "raceless" or the "default" race, and as such are insulated from feelings of racial discomfort. It describes racism as systematic rather than overt and conscious, arguing that racial segregation has shaped the United States. Research points that children aged 3 upwards believe it better to be white in North America.

Excellent conversation tonight with friends over this term. Imagine being shaped by a socio/educational system that tells you the great men in history were noble, benevolent creatures. Your parents were taught this, your Grandparents were taught this, it goes back several centuries. You're conditioned to believe in this. Then, as it turns out, these 'Great Men' were slave owners, traders, bigamists, hypocrites, blowhards and opportunists. Most likely, their great deeds were done by Black, Brown or Asian people and they just took the credit.

A couple of my friends were just gobsmacked and had no answers to give (this is a 'Face to Face' conversation, no anonymous board to hide behind). One was so incensed that he left the table (the rest of us paid his bill). Then my friend "Rick", super good guy, as Canadian as you can get, married to a Bollywood Beauty said: "I know I'm a suburban white guy that never had any sort of money or health problems. Somewhere down the line, I must have said or done something nasty to somebody. I'm hoping I didn't mean it. I hope I never do it again."

I paid for Rick's dinner.
The 5 most fatuous paragraphs ever written on this board.
 

Insidious Von

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Italians also castrated and sold Italians to the Arabs to be eunuch slaves, IV. Those were nasty times and mean men did bad stuff.
That's another story Mandrill, there was a big difference between the Moorish Invasion of Spain and Italy. The Berber/Moors did manage to conquer Sicily but the invasion of Italy eventually failed.
 

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Its still happening in Africa, this is apparently Libya, but other Islamic countries are famous for this, Mauritania is notorious for still letting it happen. How terrible is this?

That's barbaric, no word from BLM or other groups?
 

basketcase

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Oh the Mongols were pretty efficient in their day as well... Last I checked they weren't white.

Are there any reparations owed there I wonder?
If modern Mongol society were still profiting from those abhorrent actions then it would be a fair question. As it is just another fragile snowflake question..
 
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basketcase

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1) Cain was black.
2) The largest empire in human history is the Islamic Empire.
3) The white man can't be so bad since the Hong Kong Chinese want the Brits back.
1) How could one guy have children who were three different races? Maybe we should leave out the hand-me-down stories that ended up in the bible.
2) According to the interweb, the British Empire was the largest by area and the Mongols were the largest contiguous one (and 2nd largest overall).
3) Anyone who thinks morals have anything to do with skin colour is messed up (and I think most people would rather be in a westernized democracy than be under an authoritarian power).
 
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If modern Mongol society were still profiting from those abhorrent actions then it would be a fair question. As it is just another fragile snowflake question..
Ah so there's statue of limitations applied to this whole thing eh? Didn't know that.

I do know though by definition only leftists can be snowflakes. And that be you......
 

basketcase

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Ah so there's statue of limitations applied to this whole thing eh? Didn't know that.

I do know though by definition only leftists can be snowflakes. And that be you......
No, just sanity. There is no Mongol state to pay reparations. Don't let that stop you from being triggered.
 

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Very interesting Ty. I will wait patiently for the Mongol thread. Should be interesting as well.
The Mongols actually conquered much of the lands that Muslims conquered and Alexander the Great earlier conquered. The Mongols and Alex left but the Muslims are still there on lands they conquered with the sword and forced the indigenous people to convert to Islam or be killed.
 
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