Where can I find cookie sheets

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that are not made in China. Yeah call me paranoid if you wish to, but with all the reports that all the stuff from there is full of lead and another poison getting into stuff that is basically an arsenic and then beads that kids choke on that is full of stuff too. Plus reading reports of all the imitations of brand names of other equipment made cheaper and watching youtube vids of imitation eggs and kids dying from other stuff in baby foods etc... I somehow am now reading labels on everything.

To make a long story short I was in homesense looking for new cookie sheets and another store in the same mall and before setting out across the city in an impossible mission I would like to know a location that is guaranteed to have cookie sheets that are made in anyplace other than China at least. After reading all this stuff I am in no mood to support anyone that will possibly poison kids, choke them or make defective toys.
 
WhOiSyOuRdAdDy? said:
You will end up supporting China with other purchases you make... most of the goods sold here are made in China... If it says "Product of Canada"... it does not mean it is made in Canada.

You have too much time on your hands if you are going to run all over the city for such a large purchase
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I have 3 kids and choose to minimize my risks thank you. They may be more expensive cookie sheets in the end more than the 12 to 18 dollars in home sense, but I can hope that it has more expensive materials inside because I do bake these goodies for my children not for myself. We all chose to do what we feel best for our children do we not. ie... oragnic, omega 3 eggs low cholesterol etc... etc...
 
in Cookie's bed??
 
We North Americans seriously need to be supporting our local manufacturers. Companies who make small things like cookie sheets, or even clothes pins.
 
james t kirk said:
We North Americans seriously need to be supporting our local manufacturers. Companies who make small things like cookie sheets, or even clothes pins.
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I agree, just go into a store like Winners everything is made in China or Taiwan. I have been doing a lot of label reading lately and am disappointed in many stores for what they carry. There is no options in some stores. A nice list of where to shop for different items would be nice ie.. childrens toys, cooking supplies, linens etc.. It is sad but it must be what most people want.

But what amazes me is China banned all North American programs in the mid 80's, for what reason I have no idea. Is this for any health reason? I seriously do not get it.

I read all this stuff or hear it on TV watching tonight about actors in the past and what has happened to them now. I do wonder why people support a system that seems to care only about thier finances and saving but not about safety of people. I am trying to figure out the reasoning of why thier country is ran in such a way and yet will cut off this or that from us.

I did buy one toy months ago without realizing it was made in China later went on the net to find out that it was recalled for trapping babies arms in a tube and went on to follow the instructions to see the numbers on the bottom to see if it needed the replacement parts to make the tube more safe. Luckily it was a newer model, but I buy my baby one larger (ONE) that I felt would be greatly educational and am now against any leap toys. This will be the one and only leap toy my son will own now. Especially after reading a large recall list and reasons behind the recalls.

But, now I look around and see most toddler toys are from there also. Some stores carry nothing but made in China brands, while others are a mixture still with the vast majority being made in China. Granted I have not checked out toy stores like Toys R us etc.. What brands are they carrying?

The way I look at it is that I am willing to make a gradual change over of all items in my place. Tell me where all these Canadian made items are, what they are and I will get them as needed.

I am also thinking of a Air Purification system, where are those suckers made? Ahhh I'll check that out too. I was just reading reviews on the Honeywell HFD-120 Tower as the filters do not need changing. It sounds good but did not see where it is made. Winter is coming windows will be closed more.

Seriously though the lack of Canadian made items in some stores is not good there should be more choices for consumers. I'll just have to learn more of which stores to hit for different items.
 
james t kirk said:
We North Americans seriously need to be supporting our local manufacturers. Companies who make small things like cookie sheets, or even clothes pins.
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Agreed. I've been saying this to friends/co-workers for years.
 
WhOiSyOuRdAdDy? said:
Companies are driven by the interests of the shareholders, not the consumers.

Goods cannot be produced competitively in NA.
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If consumers REFUSED to buy goods made in China that would change their tune.

However, such a mobilization of the North American consumer would be impossible to achieve I admit.
 
Though the cookie sheets were stamped in North America, chances are really good the Aluminum and possibly the steel were mined in China or at least Asia. Not that that would be an issue though, smelting processes are pretty well standardized everywhere. Even if something is made in North America, chances are probable that it was not made in North America.
 
Beyond that...

WhOiSyOuRdAdDy? said:
Companies are driven by the interests of the shareholders, not the consumers.

Goods cannot be produced competitively in NA.
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...you could make an argument that the country / economy / society / whatever benefits more from having low prices for all than it does for having jobs for a few.

Once saw a documentary that spoke to this fact...that gave a number for the dollar value of "savings" that Wal Mart provides, versus an estimate on the number of jobs lost due to their purchasing practices. It wasn't close...and when you factor in the fact that MOST of those people who are "put out of work by Wal Mart" actually Do have jobs...just a different one...it is WAY not close.

The truth is, the number of people who have NO job and are UNEMPLOYABLE due to low cost provider purchasing practices is small. Really small.

"Buy Canadian / American" makes for a really nice rallying cry - but in reality few people are willing to actually pay the price associated with such a policy if followed strictly....
 
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Though the cookie sheets were stamped in North America, chances are really good the Aluminum and possibly the steel were mined in China or at least Asia. Not that that would be an issue though, smelting processes are pretty well standardized everywhere. Even if something is made in North America, chances are probable that it was not made in North America.
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Actually no. China and the orient are buying up our steel in droves and if anything, it wouldn't be cost effective to mine the ore here, ship it to china, have them process it, then ship the steel back here. Or just buy it from Hamilton.....

As for cookie sheets: just go to Metal Supermarkets, by some 18 gauge sheet steel. Degrease it and whoop, there you go.

If you're that worried about contaiminants you should stop drinking water. It gets moved through your house in copper pipe which can cause one to have high copper content in their bodies which can lead to:

HIGH COPPER

Copper levels are more often too high than too low. High copper can be toxic.

Physical Symptoms of High Copper:

Headaches
Hypoglycemia
Increased heart rate
Nausea
Copper deposits in the brain and liver causing damage.
Damage to the kidneys
Inhibit urine production
Causes anemia
Causes hair loss in women

High copper interferes with zinc, which is needed to manufacture digestive enzymes. Many high copper people dislike protein and are drawn to high-carbohydrate diets because they have difficulty digesting protein foods.
Excessive copper in children is associated with hyperactive behavior, learning disorders such as dyslexia, ADD and infections such as ear.
Psychological Symptoms of High Copper:

Autism type symptoms
Depression
Hallucinations
Hyperactivity
Insomnia
Paranoia
Personality changes
Psychosis
Schizophrenic type symptoms
Overstimulation
Disperception of the senses, time, body, self and others.
Produces hypomanic states
Detachment from reality
Causes of High Copper:

Excess estrogen in the meat supply ( estrogen used as a growth hormone in the meat industry was discontinued in the 80's and replaced with testosterone, etc.)
Birth control pill
Use of prescription medications containing copper.
Smoking
Too much copper in drinking water
Zinc and manganese deficiency raises copper levels.
Copper lowers the histamine levels.
It takes 3 months to lower the level in the body.
 
I won't blame it all to the manufacturers in China. In fact, we are not paying less to get products that were made in China. For example, a lot of high end designer clothers are now made in China and they are selling us the price as if they were made in Italy or France, etc. It was the companies who wanted to pay make more profits by having their products manufactured in China.
 
Hey dude, wake up and smell the bubble tea!

Go to Best buy, Canadian Tire, Home depot, The Bays, Walmart. You will not find anything that is not made in China. As far as cookie sheets go, if they are masde od stainless steel or aluminium then there is no chance of lead being in these materials. You remind me of an old geezer that I use to know when I was a kid. He would grumble about the good old days when quality products that were made with pride that came out of the UK or Germany.He died an angry old man cursing the low quality products that were made here in the USA or Canada.
 
HAMSTER INSPECTOR said:
Go to Best buy, Canadian Tire, Home depot, The Bays, Walmart. You will not find anything that is not made in China. As far as cookie sheets go, if they are masde od stainless steel or aluminium then there is no chance of lead being in these materials. You remind me of an old geezer that I use to know when I was a kid. He would grumble about the good old days when quality products that were made with pride that came out of the UK or Germany.He died an angry old man cursing the low quality products that were made here in the USA or Canada.
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Are you calling me a Dude or is this being directed at someone else?

As far as I am concerned more crap comes from China than any other place and it is not only lead that they use in products. They make more phoney products with numerous number of things in them and filthy stuff at that. A lot of things still get into North America that do not even get inspected. I am going by fact. I seem to like to educate myself about fact when I hear about things and read up pleanty about things before making decisions. I may not be able to avoid all products that get passed into Canada, but if I am aware of the recall lists and read labels I can most certainly avoid a great deal more to help reassure the health of my children.

If this is how they like to make things and send to us I do not think it wise to support this behaviour. I am also aware one woman or one man cannot stop this behaviour either. This is my decision and I think it a wise one just in the fact of minimizing potentially deadly items that may be deadly because of a huge number of things they use in thier products.
 
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