When do the terrorists win?

[lookingforitallthetime]

72 virgins??!!

I know a guy who proposes 1000 virgins!

Call me out of touch but, my idea of heaven is 72 sluts!

 

[TOVisitor]

I've been here all along. Are you just noticing now?

More evidence of stooping to their level:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2097726,00.html

US called to account for 'disappeared' detainees
Ian Cobain
Thursday June 7, 2007
Guardian Unlimited

Dozens of people who have vanished after allegedly being detained by the United States during counter-terrorism operations were named in a report published by human rights groups.

Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and four other groups, are demanding that the US government accounts for the whereabouts of 39 people whom they believe have been held at secret CIA prisons since the attacks of September 11 2001.

<snip>

The report also expresses concern over the fate of Yusuf al-Khalid and Abed al-Khalid, the sons of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. They were taken into custody, aged nine and seven, in September 2002, during an attempt to capture their father. A former detainee says that he saw them in March the following year, around the time their father was captured, in a secret prison where the guards tormented them with insects.

Taking kids into custody and "tormenting" them?

That's not the way it should be in the US.

 

[TOVisitor]

Call me out of touch but, my idea of heaven is 72 sluts!

Don't know if you have seen this, but those virgins may be raisins.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,631357,00.html

Virgins? What virgins?
It is widely believed that Muslim 'martyrs' enjoy rich sensual rewards on reaching paradise. A new study suggests they may be disappointed. Ibn Warraq reports
Special report: religion in the UK
Saturday January 12, 2002
The Guardian

<SNIP>

This naturally leads to the most fascinating book ever written on the language of the Koran, and if proved to be correct in its main thesis, probably the most important book ever written on the Koran. Christoph Luxenberg's book, Die Syro-Aramaische Lesart des Koran, available only in German, came out just over a year ago, but has already had an enthusiastic reception, particularly among those scholars with a knowledge of several Semitic languages at Princeton, Yale, Berlin, Potsdam, Erlangen, Aix-en-Provence, and the Oriental Institute in Beirut.

Luxenberg tries to show that many obscurities of the Koran disappear if we read certain words as being Syriac and not Arabic. We cannot go into the technical details of his methodology but it allows Luxenberg, to the probable horror of all Muslim males dreaming of sexual bliss in the Muslim hereafter, to conjure away the wide-eyed houris promised to the faithful in suras XLIV.54; LII.20, LV.72, and LVI.22. Luxenberg 's new analysis, leaning on the Hymns of Ephrem the Syrian, yields "white raisins" of "crystal clarity" rather than doe-eyed, and ever willing virgins - the houris. Luxenberg claims that the context makes it clear that it is food and drink that is being offerred, and not unsullied maidens or houris.

In Syriac, the word hur is a feminine plural adjective meaning white, with the word "raisin" understood implicitly. Similarly, the immortal, pearl-like ephebes or youths of suras such as LXXVI.19 are really a misreading of a Syriac expression meaning chilled raisins (or drinks) that the just will have the pleasure of tasting in contrast to the boiling drinks promised the unfaithful and damned.

As Luxenberg's work has only recently been published we must await its scholarly assessment before we can pass any judgements. But if his analysis is correct then suicide bombers, or rather prospective martyrs, would do well to abandon their culture of death, and instead concentrate on getting laid 72 times in this world, unless of course they would really prefer chilled or white raisins, according to their taste, in the next.

Bwahahaha.

 

[onthebottom]

If your Depends are still wet from the JFK plot, you ought to change them.

Feel better now?

There we go, back to the geriatric juvenile delinquent we all expect, if don't love.

OTB

 

[frasier]

There we go, back to the geriatric juvenile delinquent we all expect, if don't love.

OTB

He sure seems a strange fellow (or gal, which would explain the mood swings...LOL)
He seems well educated but somehow willfully narrowminded..he only knows or accepts one side off the story.
I am ok with you having a different opinion, but the very same things he points out do apply for his masters too.

Although I have long suspected that he might be a paid loyal operative. With the influence that the net has on public opinion I wouldn't be surprised if both camps are planting stories and people to influence opinion.

His constant barrage of leftwing blog postings and his detailed knowledge on where to find just the right thing makes me suspicious.
He already has the talking points before most of us do....

Anyhow...I find he to be both amusing and informative.

 

[Anderson]

There comes a time when someone is holding a gun to your head that your first thought is survival, not their rights.

You take a plane and fly into MY world trade centre in MY city, I don't wanna talk ''rights'' to you.

Enough is enough at one point.

Yes, this is very emotional and sometimes thats ok.

Talking to Hitler did no good, giving him a country did him no good, D Day did him good.

Talking on your knees looking up at your killer serves only your master.

Sometimes fighting back is good.

Bullies respect strength friends

 

[TOVisitor]

There comes a time when someone is holding a gun to your head that your first thought is survival, not their rights.

You take a plane and fly into MY world trade centre in MY city, I don't wanna talk ''rights'' to you.

Enough is enough at one point.

Yes, this is very emotional and sometimes thats ok.

Talking to Hitler did no good, giving him a country did him no good, D Day did him good.

Talking on your knees looking up at your killer serves only your master.

Sometimes fighting back is good.

Bullies respect strength friends

Just curious, marc.

How old are you?

 

[Anderson]

Well before I indulge you ,

Why ?

If I am 17 , do you state ''Oh , you are so young and discount my concepts.

If I am 73, am I senile ?

Is it my ideas or is it my age ?

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

There comes a time when someone is holding a gun to your head that your first thought is survival, not their rights.

You take a plane and fly into MY world trade centre in MY city, I don't wanna talk ''rights'' to you.

Enough is enough at one point.

Yes, this is very emotional and sometimes thats ok.

Talking to Hitler did no good, giving him a country did him no good, D Day did him good.

Talking on your knees looking up at your killer serves only your master.

Sometimes fighting back is good.

Bullies respect strength friends

I guess I'm doing a poor job explaining my point of view.

You're correct though, talking to Hitler did no good. The Naxis didn't believe in habeas corpus either.

 

[Anderson]

No no , I understand you !

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Well before I indulge you ,

Why ?

If I am 17 , do you state ''Oh , you are so young and discount my concepts.

If I am 73, am I senile ?

Is it my ideas or is it my age ?

Don't worry about it. In TOV's mind, this is healthy discourse.

 

[onthebottom]

Just curious, marc.

How old are you?

I'm betting younger than you.

OTB

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

No no , I understand you !

Then wake up and smell the coffee!

 

[oldjones]

Until a country deals with the terrorists like the terrorists deal with the innocent ones , it continues.…edit…

And when everyone's behaving like the terrorists, they've won. Actually, everyone's lost, but becoming worse than your enemy makes the enemy look good. Gotta be better than them, not worse.

 

[TOVisitor]

Well before I indulge you ,

Why ?

If I am 17 , do you state ''Oh , you are so young and discount my concepts.

If I am 73, am I senile ?

Is it my ideas or is it my age ?

I dunno, just wondering. Either way you're still a schmuck.

 

[Anderson]

I dunno, just wondering. Either way you're still a schmuck.

Well thank you very much !

Interesting that you would use that word as an insult !

The age question, the insult .

All fluff but no content , got cha !