when calling an SP

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kacy said:
Maya, I can't tell you how much I agree! You took the words right out of my mouth.
Last week, when I was offering face pictures I was bombarded with emails from insincere individuals asking for them. The ironic part of it was, out of 200+ mails I sent only 2 turned out to be serious and both of them were lurkers! I have been told I am ugly, but never thought my face was that bad looking.

To elaborate on one of your points, I think that many guys make a list with names and numbers. They leave the list around for a while and then start calling the numbers, only to forget what she looks like. It happens, and I completely understand why guys do it. however when I get someone on the phone asking me what I look like (and it is clear they don't remember my pictures), it kind of bothers me to know that I am #3 or #15 on the list. Just as you guys don't like the assemby line approach, we don't like to feel like we are in an assembly line either. Hey, we all know that we are not virgins.
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So we'll listen to another one. However, could the original poster take a course in the use of the English language?

Try spelling, grammar check, thought compilation and even so difficult an area as capitalization.

If we have to read it at least let's try and not have to go through Egyptian hieroglyphics.:rolleyes:
 
toughb said:
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If we have to read it at least let's try and not have to go through Egyptian hieroglyphics.
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You DON'T have to read other people's posts.:rolleyes: Life is simple - If you don't like it, ignore it.
 
goodtime said:
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You DON'T have to read other people's posts. Life is simple - If you don't like it, ignore it.

I thought the same thing but I decided to ignore his post. :p
 
Interesting thread. It's really too bad that there are so many bogus calls. However I would think after so many of these calls you would have developed a sense within the first minute or two of talking with someone if he is really serious or will be a match for you. To be fair to the legitimate hobbyists, I doubt most of us think about this aspect of your job when we place our call to you. Kindness, professionalism and sexiness in a woman's is usually enough to convince me to arrange a meeting. Abruptness, rudeness, and an angry tone from an indie SP or an agency receptionist are huge turn-offs for me. Please consider this, as negative energy often begets more negative energy.

Out of curiousity....
For the ladies:
On average, how many calls would you say you get on a daily basis? Are the lines busiest on certain days of the week for you? (My guess would be around 50 calls a day for popular SP's, worse on the weekends)
Is there any generic questioning you would be OK with when someone calls to book?

When I call to book with a lady, I usually have 2-4 backup options that I will call if my first choice is unavailable so I would imagine this may contribute to the overload of calls for SPs. I will admit that when I am on my final option I am a bit more aggitated but that is more horniness & frustration kicking in. But on average I will spend only 2minutes on the phone to find out if a) she is available at the time I prefer , b) she can travel to the location I am at with a rate quote for that area and c) I clarify if she provides gfe or pse.

Let's try to make advancements in telephone etiquette on both sides and create some positive caller energy! :)
 
Well, you are making 350 bucks an hour. Most likely, you aren't paying income taxes on that.

My guess is that if you get a call from a guy who is masturbating, you hang up within 3 seconds. BFD.

Try writing a proposal to gain work that takes a month only not to get the job.

Try dealing with clients who push you to the end of the world and nickel and dime you to death with requests for changes.

Try dealing with working 60 or 70 hour weeks week after week to deliver a project on time.

Try putting up with not getting paid, or not getting paid for 4 or 5 months for one bogus reason or another.

Try putting up with Accounting.
 
Yeah, I would say compared to most professions SP's don't work very hard. There are so few women who are willing to do this job, who are willing to put up with having sex with sometimes fairly unpleasant strangers, willing to take on the health/safety risks, and take the risk of being exposed as a prostitute to friends/family. The few who are willing to do all that command a lot of money for very little work for basic economic reasons.

That's actually true of all jobs, it's supply/demand, not how hard work it is, that determines the pay rate. With many occupations it happens to be skill/ability that limit the available workers. In the case of SP's it's more social/moral issues that limit it. So what?

So in one way, sure, the things that SP's often complain about are pretty minor compared to a "real job", but in another way there are a lot of things that are NOT minor, otherwise far more women would be doing it and the rates would come down to a normal wage. Most women aren't willing to do this stuff, so the rate stays high.

The economics of that mean that it's simultaneously dumb to say that the work isn't worth what is being charged--if it were worth less than it pays more women would do it; and also dumb to assert that the frustrations of the job are somehow "too much", if the pay weren't good enough these women would actually quit. They may whine and moan about having a few seconds of their time wasted, but at the rates they're getting paid, they're not about to go quit and endure the trials of a "real" job.

So this whole debate about whether it's worth the money or hard work or not hard work or whatever is really kind of dumb. Of course it's not hard work; on the other hand, of course it's unpleasant enough in other ways to be worth the rate charged.
 
Originally Posted by Perry Mason

Hmmm?

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Originally Posted by Miss Maya Blue

i can't take a caller seriously when the first question is "so, tell me about yourself"

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from http://msmayablue.googlepages.com/ratesandavailibility

How to Book
"Please begin by telling me a bit about yourself.


Oops

Perry, nice research work once again
 
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interesting post! I have probably arranged 5 meetings (from very long distances, and usually for overnights) with SPs. Some were arranged solely by e-mail, others by phone and e-mail. In those dealings, I have always found the ladies to be professional and service-oriented. I have always done as much research as posiible before I contacted them. I agree that the phone contact is the clincher from our point of view. If we e-mail first, we hope that in due course when we call, we will be "recognized" by the SP as a serious contender instead of asshole! So, ladies, be aware of that and try your best to respond to e-mails asking about specific availability as quickly as possible. When I got responses, I certainly followed those up. A few of the SPs responding in this thread were ones I've dealt with. I can tell you all that there are also a few responding here who I certainly will contact in the future! They strike me as articulate and interesting while providing links to entice both my heads into action!

Good weekend, all
 
I don't know what complaining on TERB is going to accomplish. Does anyone really think that posting this will make some jerk not want to masterbate to your voice?

If you really want to minimize the problem (and I say minimize because I don't think you'll ever stop it) only book through the net and confirm by phone. Book through PM's, emails, and you're website as well as other sites. Maybe ask for a call back number. If this is such a burden on your business, then change your business.
 
Every one makes a point but some ads do not have a photo or much to go on . I try to contact via email ,pm for my ( stupid common questions) so I do not bother the escort unless I am serious and ready to make a move ,however, some do not respond to there emails or pm's then if a phone call is made and she was not what I was looking for this would become a inquire with out meeting and I would image an escort would get allot of these calls.
 
Miss Maya Blue said:
i can't take a caller seriously when the first question is
"so, tell me about yourself". "what do you look like?"

It would be helpful if more escorts attend TERB parties. That way the ladies and gentlemen can meet, exchange pleasantries and contact info in a social setting. It would make it a lot easier for the ladies to then later screen their callers when it is from a telephone number and/or name that they recognize as someone they've already met. Why don't more ladies attend TERB parties?
 
kacy said:
Because (and no offense to terb) most of them take place at strip clubs. I have never been to one, but from what I heard dancers don't like other ladies (in particular SPs) because it impedes on their business for the night. They think of the SPs being there as stealing their business, and rightfully so.

I attended a party at Seductions a couple of years ago, and:

1) The club manager was really happy because the partyers bought lots of drinks and food (i.e. money for the club).
2) The dancers were happy because there was a lot more men and quite a few bought dances (i.e. more money for the dancers).

There several ladies who I want love to meet in person in a social environment where I can talk freely and get to know them as persons. This is one advantage that dancers have over escorts (a website is no subsitute for a meeting in person). I hate booking an appointment with someone sight unseen. Make a mistake with a dancer and the damage is $20, make a mistake with an escort and the damage is $250.
 
kacy said:
I just feel hesistant going to a party in a club where dancers are working because they might think SPs are stepping on their business.

That happened to me once at one of the Terb parties ages ago. The dancers were not happy with me because some of their supposed customers for the evening were paying more attention to me - they failed to realize that because many of these customers were at the club specifically for the party, we were actually bringing them some extra business that night (with the exception of the terb party, the club seemed pretty dead that night).