when a SP is beaten by client...

Kagakusha

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So I was reading up my Twitter feed today when I noticed that one of the SPs (quite known, recently a former agency girl) that I was planning to book soon, suffered two black eyes from one of her 'dates' (which I read that as a booking). Damn, sorry she had to go through that. But glad that she's not harmed any worse, at least, so far known.

Of course, she posted the client's #, and her Tweet has been picked up and retweeted by many others.

But yeah, posting this thread to basically raise awareness. Though, I'm not sure if that sort of thing -- posting who the SP is, and the phone number of said bastard of a client -- is allowed on these forums.
 

ElCapitain

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I saw that last night and it really ruined my evening. What kind of person would do that? Why? And he hit her multiple times, to both eyes, judging from the bruises...

The bad client wasn't using a burner phone, at least, so he's very easy to track down. But it's unfortunate that it sounds like she feels she can't report it to the police.
 

SlickRickBBD

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Saw the post on Twitter as well. I was totally disgusted. I can not understand why anyone would physically rough up a provider. Just don't get it. I really hope she went to the police.
 

spaman

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An assault has taken place, it does not matter if she is a SP or a cashier at the LCBO this needs to be reported. Then give me the link
 

sashimi

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It's terrible what happened. Let's her make her own decisions on how she'll handle this though. Just offer your support to the her.

Also, to the guys who bitch and moan about screening...this is one of the reasons why.
Screening doesn't protect her entirely. Some of these assaults were carried out by "regulars" and not newbies!
 

DaleyDDD

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I would just like to say that please please do not share the personal information in this board. The ladies are very much aware of the details and the steps moving forward that are required in order to pursue legal action but the most important thing to remember is that it's said lady's decision to take the next steps or not.

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with an open dialogue that is occurring here and I encourage it, but it can be generalized to not specify the lady subject to this assault. It's best to let this lady decide what she thinks is best, and allow her time to cope with this trauma at her own pace. It is unfortunate that assault is a difficult and frightening thing to deal with and furthermore make the decision to come forward with.

I wish her all the best and we should all do the same. Stay safe.
 

Photoboy

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I've been hearing that the guys are getting violent lately. What gives?!
That is disgusting. This is hobby is about fun not violence. I also saw the tweet. That type of treatment should never ever happen. I hope this guy gets what's coming to him but I agree with Daley's comments above. I am glad that the community is bonding together for her and also communicating this incident to hopefully avoid future violence against women.
 

SchlongConery

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I've been hearing that the guys are getting violent lately. What gives?!

There are guys like rocco_s (search the sadist's posting history) who thinks "submissive" means that it is ok to slap, choke and punch the girl. And these SICK fucks get off on inflicting pain on someone who is helpless.

Seriously, if any one of you guys gets excited at the prospect of inflicting pain you really need to recognize that this is not a healthy state of mind to have. Regardless if the girl says she likes it. Deriving pleasure from inflicting pain is not a healthy mental state.
 

barnacler

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Ah, hello, please explain to my WHY you assume everything she is saying is true?

Have you seen evidence, heard BOTH SIDE OF THE STORY?

why are you AUTOMATICALLY assuming everything she says is true?

WTF is this, a kangaroo court? A show trial?

WTF do ANY OF YOU actually know FIRSTHAND of the facts?
 

SchlongConery

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Ah, hello, please explain to my WHY you assume everything she is saying is true?

Have you seen evidence, heard BOTH SIDE OF THE STORY?

why are you AUTOMATICALLY assuming everything she says is true?

WTF is this, a kangaroo court? A show trial?

WTF do ANY OF YOU actually know FIRSTHAND of the facts?

Yeah... the evidence suggests that she punched herself in the face a few times.. or she fell down the stairs.

BTW... why so angry? "Hitting" a bit too close to home?
 

thumper18474

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Ah, hello, please explain to my WHY you assume everything she is saying is true?

Have you seen evidence, heard BOTH SIDE OF THE STORY?

why are you AUTOMATICALLY assuming everything she says is true?

WTF is this, a kangaroo court? A show trial?

WTF do ANY OF YOU actually know FIRSTHAND of the facts?
The only evidence we have seen is the 2 black eyes and the swollen nose she posted on Twitter...
 

SchlongConery

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While Rocco's desires aren't my cup of tea lets not lump him in with guys who unexpectedly violently assault the ladies. There is a BIG difference
Let me tell you a story.

Last summer I met a new girl to the industry. Very sweet, very one that is into pleasing and one who enjoys being submissive in the sense she enjoys a man taking his pleasure from her.

Saw her twice and had a wonderful time and left on Cloud Nine.

A few weeks later I saw her agin and she was a completely changed person. To make a long story short she broke down and told me that the that the day after she had seen me, she had seen a client who asked if she was "submissive" as they were having sex. She said she was and he then spit in her face, slapped her and asked "how submissive?" and "do you like that?". Ghomeshi-style.

She said she was paralyzed with fear and scared to death and couldn't speak. She actually feared for her life. She simply couldn't speak and then he choked her. She really thought he was going to kill her.. He proceeded to slap her and spit on her and choke her and she felt he took her lack of protest as tacit permission. He finished, smiled, got up and acted all normal and said thanks.

He left and she cried for hours not knowing what to do.

She asked not to work at the airport area and her agency agreed.

In any case, she said she later realized that the guy meant no actual harm but she says it demoralized her so much to think that there were actually people who enjoyed hurting and degrading other people.

Her story actually brought tears to my eyes. I couldn't go through with the "appointment" and wished there was some way that I could have helped her more in terms of helping her understand people.

I'm rambling but I have other stories that I really can't bring myself to tell but suffice to say that like mass murderers who tortured animals as kids, men who get sexually aroused at the prospect or by acts of degradation and violence really have a diseased mind. And I don't mean that in a pejorative sense. I mean it in the same way that I might describe a schizophrenic or someone with autism etc.

It must be an awful life to have to live to derive pleasure from someone else's pain.
 

SchlongConery

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Asking if someone is submissive and them saying yes is not viewed by ANYONE as consent to start wailing on them.
Apparently there is someone who disagrees with your statement.

There are lots of guys whose pleasure is enhanced by the risk/reward of doing just that! Jian Ghomeshi for one.

And yes, it is assault.

But more to my point. Do you think it is indicative of a healthy state of mental health to seek and derive pleasure from inflicting violence on someone for one's own sexual pleasure?
 

frankcastle

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Work, debt, life in general, the whole world is stressed right out. The world and the people in it have gone mental.
Total cop out. No excuse.

Aside from self defence I see no reason to leave a mark on a woman of any occupation.

I think the rough clients is a combination of bad attitudes towards women plus increasingly violent porn. Oh and the guy is hoping the girl won't go to the cops because she is a prostitute.
 

SchlongConery

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sorry ANYONE NORMAL PERSON. You were so liberal with how you read everything else I didn't figure I need to super specific here.

I'm not a psychiatrist so I don't pretend to know other people's current mental health nor in the moment of violent acts.

If there are two fully consenting parties to whatever BDSM or other fantasy they have then all the power to them. Let's not confuse that with assault.

One does not have to be a psychiatrist to make the statement that "normal" people do not derive pleasure from inflicting violence, choking, or spitting on someone. Whether the recipient is willing or otherwise.

Those that do may rationalize it or counter-balance it with other positive attributes they may have. Others may look at it superficially and say "whatever rocks your boat" and dismiss it without real thought. But to derive sexual pleasure from inflicting violence on another person is not "normal" nor an indication of a healthy mental state.
 
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