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The Oracle

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Because its a continuous treatment. Its not a one and done. Just like you can't send a type 1 diabetic out on the front lines.
You're equating guys with low T levels to people who don't produce insulin?..That's just crazy and of course ignorant.

If you had secondary hypogonadism the treatment would would enclomiphene, which is just a tablet taken daily.

For primary hypogonadism Testopel can used...The hormone dose would last between 3 and six months.

It's not that difficult and could be managed easily given todays engagement parameters.

Hegseth is doing a good thing here. Anybody who is opposing this should have their own free testosterone levels checked...I imagine most leftists are deficient.
 
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Butler1000

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You're equating guys with low T levels to people who don't produce insulin?..That's just crazy and of course ignorant.

If you had secondary hypogonadism the treatment would would enclomiphene, which is just a tablet taken daily.

For primary hypogonadism Testopel can used...The hormone dose would last between 3 and six months.

It's not that difficult and could be managed easily given todays engagement parameters.

Hegseth is doing a good thing here. Anybody who is opposing this should have their own free testosterone levels checked...I imagine most leftists are deficient.
Except, as noted, it causes natural testosterone to stop being produced. Which means they have to stay on it. Thats the point.
 

The Oracle

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Except, as noted, it causes natural testosterone to stop being produced. Which means they have to stay on it. Thats the point.
So you're arguing that men with subclinical testosterone levels shouldn't be allowed obtain optimal health?...Have you ever had you free testosterone levels checked?
 
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Frankfooter

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So you're arguing that men with subclinical testosterone levels shouldn't be allowed obtain optimal health?...Have you ever had you free testosterone levels checked?
You must be worried for your masculinity that it even comes up as a thought.
 

Butler1000

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So you're arguing that men with subclinical testosterone levels shouldn't be allowed obtain optimal health?...Have you ever had you free testosterone levels checked?
Im stating that the Armed forces have different standards to meet. And deny people entrance, as well as discharge those who can't function. Its that simple. The USA armed forces are pretty ruthless to their soldiers. Suddenly this is the big thing?
 

The Oracle

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Im stating that the Armed forces have different standards to meet. And deny people entrance, as well as discharge those who can't function. Its that simple. The USA armed forces are pretty ruthless to their soldiers. Suddenly this is the big thing?
Word salad...You clearly don't understand TRT at all...Maybe just recuse yourself from the conversation.
 

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You're equating guys with low T levels to people who don't produce insulin?..That's just crazy and of course ignorant.

If you had secondary hypogonadism the treatment would would enclomiphene, which is just a tablet taken daily.

For primary hypogonadism Testopel can used...The hormone dose would last between 3 and six months.

It's not that difficult and could be managed easily given todays engagement parameters.

Hegseth is doing a good thing here. Anybody who is opposing this should have their own free testosterone levels checked...I imagine most leftists are deficient.
But aren't troops evaluated for performance all the time? (They are btw). If soldier marine airman or sailor was underperforming I can see an argument for checking thyroids as much as testosterone. So I'll meet ya halfway there.
But just spending the time and resources to do that? No. They're not fighting Spartans at Thermopylae.
 

Butler1000

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Word salad...You clearly don't understand TRT at all...Maybe just recuse yourself from the conversation.
Its not a word salad. There is a reason Hegseth is being mocked for this.
 

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Hegseth likes to jungle change. Jesse Waters is grief stricken, he lost his lover on July 11th.


He goes out for Halloween candy as Homo Erectus.
 

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You're equating guys with low T levels to people who don't produce insulin?..That's just crazy and of course ignorant.

If you had secondary hypogonadism the treatment would would enclomiphene, which is just a tablet taken daily.

For primary hypogonadism Testopel can used...The hormone dose would last between 3 and six months.

It's not that difficult and could be managed easily given todays engagement parameters.

Hegseth is doing a good thing here. Anybody who is opposing this should have their own free testosterone levels checked...I imagine most leftists are deficient.
So you are saying high testosterone levels cause stupidity ?
 

niniveh

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And rapiness, apparently.
Its a MAGA dream, more stupid, manly rapists for freedom.

Maureen Dowd In The NYT

Trump seemed very low-T in his East Room address. I’m surprised that Pete Hegseth, who says his “High-T Department of War” will start screening testosterone levels of “war fighters” age 30 and older, didn’t rush over to shoot up the flaccid 80-year-old commander in chief with the elixir of manhood needed, as he put it, to give America “the leading edge of lethality.”
 
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